Norman!

Thanks for your reply. I did not know there's a free version. I suspect some
req'd libs are not there, but I'll try it out. It's not just a Q of
"tooltips". It's all of getting to know what a given object/variable
value/state is. The only type I've seen so far that Builder can handle is
bool (suspect the build in ones would work too). Locals, Inspect, Evaluate,
Tooltip - all of it does not work as types are not converted/propagated.
Common in OO programming (depending on the base code, of course) is to copy
a function body and modyfy it (should not be nessesary, but in practice
often is), can't do that with CPPB either. I'd have to re-write OOpascal to
C++ - introducing bugs as I am a commercially stressed guy...

Switching to Dephi? Come on - if your native language is English and you can
make yourself understood all over the world, why would you try to get better
at German/Esperanto?

The latter paragraph is not intended to start a discussion in this forum :)

/Dany

"Norman Dunbar" <norman.dunbar@...> skrev i meddelandet
news:97AAB2A0983A7144BF02E9A191C9C820C20AAE@......

> Dany,
>
> the C++ Builder system actually 'understands' Delphi - which is why you

are

> able to install IBO (written in Delphi) into C++Builder.
>
> To trace the source code, set a debug point in a test app, and follow it
> through in the debugger, when you leave C++ and enter Delphi - you will

see

> the code in Delphi not in C++. Some die hard C++ programmers over in the
> Borland news groups object to the fact that C++Builder uses the Delphi

VCL -

> but I quite like it myself.
>
> Alternatively, you can look at the Delphi source code in any text editor,

or

> simply open a .pas file in C++ Builder etc etc.
>
> All of the above work on the understanding that you do have the full

source

> code, if not, you may find areas that you cannot step into in the

debugger.

>
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
> Norman.
>
> PS. When debugging the Delphi code, the C++ debugger doesn't show Tooltip
> evaluation of Delphi variables - only procedure & function addresses -

which

> isn't as helpful as when you debug straight C++ code. (Or use Delphi !)
>
> PPS. Why not nip over to
> http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html# (the # is
> required) and download a copy of 'Delphi 6 Personal', install it and
> register it on-line. Then you can step through Delphi code and have the
> tooltip help work correctly as mentioned above. D6 Personal is free for

your

> own PERSONAL use. You'll also see just how much faster Delphi is to

compile

> than C++ :o)
>
> -------------------------------------
> Norman Dunbar
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dany Marmur [mailto:arbit@...]
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:28 PM
> To: IBObjects@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [IBO] Extrending the code (Delphi/Builder)
>
>
> Hi!
>
> This might be somewhat off-topic. I need to create new subclasses from the
> controls (to change key and screen behaviour and some more). When I trace
> the pascal code in Builder most types are shown as void inte the debugger.
> To hack message handling functions and paint functions under theese
> sircumbstances is almost impossible.
>
> Do I need Delphi to be able to trace the source meningfully? Or is there
> some setting i Builder? Are there translated sources like the *.hpp that
> comes with the project? Some Pascal to C translator? I'm not used to VCL

so

> bear with me please.
>
> Thank you for your support,
>
> /Dany
>
>
>
>
>

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