| Subject | RE: [firebird-support] Is Firebird a hoax? |
|---|---|
| Author | lnd@hnit.is |
| Post date | 2004-01-11T21:45:56Z |
Just in this weekend I got running Firebird in Win2K w/o problems actually.
As for support and bug issues, then one must look at and make comparision
with commercial players like Oracle: take a look into Oracle's bug lists for
example.
One advice: do not stress any database, i.e. do not use all [exotic] features
unless you really need them.
If you can get w/o using "computed fields" - do it, report a bug to
developers and check next version - may be things will be better.
Personally, I chose Firebird for my to be projects because it supports
transactions, views and outer joins, has a posibility to support self-made
national character sets: w/o that a database is not really a database for me.
Other things like triggers and stored procedures are fine but are not such
critical.
One interesting thing is about hotbackups - does FB have any posibility of
them? If not today then in the future, i.e. does the FB architecture allow
for it w/o major overhaul?
Brgds,
Laimis
-----Original Message-----
From: C Fraser [mailto:Colin.Fraser@...]
Sent: 11. janĂșar 2004 20:28
To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [firebird-support] Is Firebird a hoax?
You need to read some docs...
Start browsing at www.firebirdsql.org and www.ibphoenix.com (sounds
like
you have seen these, but spend a bit of time looking through the
documentation and release notes).
Of course you can run Firebird on the Latest hardware and software...
Haven't tried it on Win server 2003 but I assume it works also...
By not supported it means 'doesn't take advantage of', not 'doesn't
run
on'... Many, many people are running Firebird 1 and 1.5 (even though
not
officially released) on today's software and today's hardware very
successfully and happily.
In the docs, you will find things like how to stop NT bouncing
Firebird
from processor to processor on multi processor (or HT) PCs/Servers
(not
a problem on Linux I believe).
You will also find that it is wise to disable system restore because
apparently MS in their wisdom decided that .gdb files (a common
extension for Firebird dbs) where system files and includes them in
its
system restore process which slows things down...
These are a couple of the items which you might have confused as
'doesn't run on'.
Hope that helps...
Regards
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: chiaraprc [mailto:chiaraprc@...]
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 11:32 a.m.
To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [firebird-support] Is Firebird a hoax?
Hi all,
Some weeks ago a friend of mine told me about
Firebird, so I am testing it in my lab, I am reading
some "exiting" news on ibphoenix or on firebirdsql.com
but I am a little confused:
The only stable release of Firebird, (1.03) is pratically inusable on
newest PC's, HT is not supported, W2k3 is not supported, latest XP
are
not supported, W2k SP4 are not supported, ODBC are inusable, i need
to
install
windows95 on my old Pentium to use Firebird???
I toke a look at Firebird 1.5
is it a real release?? the rc8 seem to introduce more bug
the any other previous relase since 1976: a serious
security bug, a computed fields bug, an installer bug,
the 1.5 are in this state since a year, (as stated in
developer ng) but all are "exiting" building FB2, is
Firebird a lab for gurus? or it is a product? Is Firebird
a choice today? or I need to search some thing more reliable? When we
can aspect a runnable Firebird? As in firebridsql.com "relational
database for the new millenium" starting from 2000?
Best Regards
Chiara Percioli
Software Architect
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As for support and bug issues, then one must look at and make comparision
with commercial players like Oracle: take a look into Oracle's bug lists for
example.
One advice: do not stress any database, i.e. do not use all [exotic] features
unless you really need them.
If you can get w/o using "computed fields" - do it, report a bug to
developers and check next version - may be things will be better.
Personally, I chose Firebird for my to be projects because it supports
transactions, views and outer joins, has a posibility to support self-made
national character sets: w/o that a database is not really a database for me.
Other things like triggers and stored procedures are fine but are not such
critical.
One interesting thing is about hotbackups - does FB have any posibility of
them? If not today then in the future, i.e. does the FB architecture allow
for it w/o major overhaul?
Brgds,
Laimis
-----Original Message-----
From: C Fraser [mailto:Colin.Fraser@...]
Sent: 11. janĂșar 2004 20:28
To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [firebird-support] Is Firebird a hoax?
You need to read some docs...
Start browsing at www.firebirdsql.org and www.ibphoenix.com (sounds
like
you have seen these, but spend a bit of time looking through the
documentation and release notes).
Of course you can run Firebird on the Latest hardware and software...
Haven't tried it on Win server 2003 but I assume it works also...
By not supported it means 'doesn't take advantage of', not 'doesn't
run
on'... Many, many people are running Firebird 1 and 1.5 (even though
not
officially released) on today's software and today's hardware very
successfully and happily.
In the docs, you will find things like how to stop NT bouncing
Firebird
from processor to processor on multi processor (or HT) PCs/Servers
(not
a problem on Linux I believe).
You will also find that it is wise to disable system restore because
apparently MS in their wisdom decided that .gdb files (a common
extension for Firebird dbs) where system files and includes them in
its
system restore process which slows things down...
These are a couple of the items which you might have confused as
'doesn't run on'.
Hope that helps...
Regards
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: chiaraprc [mailto:chiaraprc@...]
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 11:32 a.m.
To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [firebird-support] Is Firebird a hoax?
Hi all,
Some weeks ago a friend of mine told me about
Firebird, so I am testing it in my lab, I am reading
some "exiting" news on ibphoenix or on firebirdsql.com
but I am a little confused:
The only stable release of Firebird, (1.03) is pratically inusable on
newest PC's, HT is not supported, W2k3 is not supported, latest XP
are
not supported, W2k SP4 are not supported, ODBC are inusable, i need
to
install
windows95 on my old Pentium to use Firebird???
I toke a look at Firebird 1.5
is it a real release?? the rc8 seem to introduce more bug
the any other previous relase since 1976: a serious
security bug, a computed fields bug, an installer bug,
the 1.5 are in this state since a year, (as stated in
developer ng) but all are "exiting" building FB2, is
Firebird a lab for gurus? or it is a product? Is Firebird
a choice today? or I need to search some thing more reliable? When we
can aspect a runnable Firebird? As in firebridsql.com "relational
database for the new millenium" starting from 2000?
Best Regards
Chiara Percioli
Software Architect
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