At 06:03 PM 10/02/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>Helen,
>
>On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 07:19, Helen Borrie wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, I'm curious to know what a non-programmer is going to with a database
> > and a Java driver...
>
>Actually I would like to see other non-programmers using Firebird with
>tools like OpenOffice.
>
>Regardless of them not being programmers or dba, at least they can store
>their data using a good RDMS.

Sure, but where my curiosity comes in is what a non-programmer is going to
do with an RDBMS...no implied criticism, I am simply *curious*.

For example, in MS Word, end-users can use MSQuery to extract data for
static output; or in various Windows development IDEs you can build in
Ole-DB providers to exchange data between applications...generally, there
is a programmer behind such apps, even where the end-users are able to
define their own queries.

>In the end do we really care why or how they are using Firebird, or
>simply that they are using Firebird. It will only help spread the word.

Exactly - which is the reason I asked.

heLen