Subject RE: [ib-support] Re: force disconnect users
Author Wilson, Fred
The client applications don't log on as sysdab, but they do log on as the
owner. Decision made a long time ago in a place far, far away ;) Maybe
someday that'll change, but for now, the only safe and quick route is to
shutdown the IB/FB service, as I described.

Best regards,
Fred Wilson
SE, Bell & Howell

-----Original Message-----
From: csswa [mailto:csswa@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:21 PM
Subject: [ib-support] Re: force disconnect users

--- In ib-support@y..., Helen Borrie <helebor@t...> wrote:

> deployment), many or all users log in as sysdba or owner, then
there is no
> way to know or guarantee that one of those "other sysdbas" who were
> logged in when you did the forced shutdown are locked out. They
can just
> keep on chugging away - database integrity be damned.

If other sysdbas ignore the 'maintenance' event post (and what of
users connected but not present to respond to the post?), then
there's not a lot you can do except kill the server as Fred does.

I suppose you could keep checking the connection count and wait until
it is 1 (the backup process itself) before starting the backup...
getting a bit too complicated, though. Ideally this would have been
considered prior to implementing a db where everyone is given sysdba
status. There is no water-tight solution, of course, only best

Dalton Calford's 'roll-forward logging' seems the best solution so
far for complete failsafe operation:

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