Subject RE: [Firebird-general] Re: Article / Philip Copeman
Author Johan van Zyl
I forwarded the posting to Philip Copeman, owner of Pink Software/TurboCash
and this is his response.
JVZ

I am currently leaning towards using MySQL, Delphi and the ZEOS components.
MY comments are below linked to yours.

I would like to hear from Firebird as this is a really critical area for us.
Whoever we choose as our partner will defintely be close to us. We are
alrady the leading Oepn SOurce Accoutnign package fro small business in a
young market. WE intend to still be out in front when the market matures. We
beleive the target is 2 Million users.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Johan van Zyl" <johan@...>
To: <philip@...>
Sent: 23/mm/2004 9:45 AM
Subject: Firebird



Myles Wakeham wrote:
> I definitely think that there is a HUGE window of opportunity to get new
> adoptees of Firebird out there. We went through the 'Open Source Database
> Analysis process' last year, and here is why we chose Firebird (the
options
> we checked against were MySQL, PostgreSQL and Firebird). I'm sure
thousands
> of others are in the same decision making boat:
>
> 1. Firebird is the only one to offer BOTH a server deployment and an
> embedded database. This is critical if you are giving someone a free,
> single user 30 day trial of a program before they purchase a full network
> installation of it. I don't want to install database servers on their
> single user PC, and I don't want to have to write multiple different
> database access layers in our software.

MYSQL ALOS OFFERS AND ENBEDDED DATABASE
>
> 2. Only Firebird and MySQL natively install on Windows. PostgreSQL
> requires Cygwin, which turns off most Windows people.
>
YEAH I AM ALSO NERVOUS OF PSOTGRESS FOR THE REASON. The idea of cross
playform is a MYTH. It is currently only offered by PHP and MYSQL withg a
crappy Browser interface, not really suitable to Accoutngin systems (or
other applicatiosn for that matter)

WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING IN THE PLANS OF DVELOPEING IN WINDOWS AND USIN AN
EMULATOR TO GET THE LINUX GOGING LOOKING AT WINE adn CODEWAEVER
(UNFORTUNATELY NTO OPOEN SOURCE)

HOWEVER MYSQL PHP IS A REALLY NOCE ADD ON TO DELPHI MYSQL AS IT LETS NON
DELHI PROGRAMMERS PARTICIPATE AND PHP HAS TO BE THE DOMINANT LOW COMMITMENT
PROGRAMMING ENVIRONEMENT.

> 3. Firebird offers stored procedure support. This is critical to us as
> we like to embed the data management routines for our database into the
> database itself, rather than have this run on the clients. This allows us
> to produce a very thin client application. MySQL (other than the v5
> release) doesn't have stored procedure support. PostgreSQL does, but
isn't
> available natively in Windows.
>
I DON"T REALLY UNDERTNAD THE BENEFIT OF STORED PROCEEDURES. MYSQL DOES LOOK
LIKE AN OLD FASHIONED DATABASE.

I HAVE FOUND FRIBRIG SLOW WHEN USED WITH SMALL DATA SETS.

I AM SUSPICIOUS OF THE MYSQL LICENCE, BUT FIND THE FIEBIRD LICENCE CLEAR AND
THIS MAY BE THEIR STRONGEST POINT.

I AM SUSPICIOUS OF A SINGLE FILE DATABASE.



> 4. The Firebird community rocks!
>
> Hence Firebird is the winner for us.
>
> Now onto the technical merits of it....
>
> Myles
>

Bump

We need this kind of articles (the more the better)

Anyone picked it ? if not have to find someone to write it ...


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-----Original Message-----
From: marius popa [mailto:mapopa@...]
Sent: 23 July 2004 09:37
To: Firebird-general@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Firebird-general] Re: Article


Myles Wakeham wrote:
> I definitely think that there is a HUGE window of opportunity to get new
> adoptees of Firebird out there. We went through the 'Open Source Database
> Analysis process' last year, and here is why we chose Firebird (the
options
> we checked against were MySQL, PostgreSQL and Firebird). I'm sure
thousands
> of others are in the same decision making boat:
>
> 1. Firebird is the only one to offer BOTH a server deployment and an
> embedded database. This is critical if you are giving someone a free,
> single user 30 day trial of a program before they purchase a full network
> installation of it. I don't want to install database servers on their
> single user PC, and I don't want to have to write multiple different
> database access layers in our software.
>
> 2. Only Firebird and MySQL natively install on Windows. PostgreSQL
> requires Cygwin, which turns off most Windows people.
>
> 3. Firebird offers stored procedure support. This is critical to us as
> we like to embed the data management routines for our database into the
> database itself, rather than have this run on the clients. This allows us
> to produce a very thin client application. MySQL (other than the v5
> release) doesn't have stored procedure support. PostgreSQL does, but
isn't
> available natively in Windows.
>
> 4. The Firebird community rocks!
>
> Hence Firebird is the winner for us.
>
> Now onto the technical merits of it....
>
> Myles
>

Bump

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