Subject RE: [Firebird-devel] Problems
Author Chad Z. Hower
(CCed as moving to fb general, but please reply there)

:: If you do a search on Google or Yahoo, Firebird's official website
:: appears before IB Phoenix's website. And, I find that the small

Not always.

Google for firebird, and tons of Mozilla stuff comes up. So at least for me
the next most natural thing was "Firebird Interbase". Which yields in this
order:

IBPhoenix Home
Latest Firebird and InterBaseR Related News and Information. Developer ...
The
Firebird and InterBaseR Community Development Journal. 06 ...
Description: Informations, Downloads and Tools for FireBird.
Category: Computers > Software > Databases > Firebird
www.ibphoenix.com/ - 15k - 6 Feb 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

Firebird - Relational Database for the New Millennium
... Guide provide you with basic information about Firebird project, and
about Firebird
relational database engine (including it's predecessor - InterBase). ...
Description: Official Developer Site with the complete sources.
Category: Computers > Software > Databases > Firebird
firebird.sourceforge.net/ - 22k - 6 Feb 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

The official one does say "Official Developer Site with the complete
sources.", but that leads me to believe that's the "Source" area for
developers while IBPhoenix would be the "consumer / user site".

:: I have to agree with Nando here. My colleague that does most of the
:: technical support for our software isn't that comfortable using the
:: command line tools. And, for that reason we have to be the ones

And even those of us that are don't always prefer them. Sometimes I need
dccil, but most times I would much rather just use the IDE (or finalbuilder)
and click options. Command line tools when they get too many options become
very unwieldy, especially for casual use.

:: that's beside the point. The point here is that Firebird needs a
:: rudimentary GUI console like IBOConsole or IB_SQL, that would at least
:: run on Windows and Linux.

And ship in the install.

:: Just an added note. Not all new programmers have used or seen the
:: command-line. For those new users, it is foreign territory.

Yep.