Subject | RE: Roadmap and name elections |
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Author | Claudio Valderrama C. |
Post date | 2003-04-18T08:58:14Z |
Brendan Eich wrote:
[snip]
I understand some of your complaints. However:
1.- I think the attitude "we researched it", "there's no clash" (oh, one of
the Firebird's is furniture, the other is an airplane, right?) and "legally
is right" is enough for me to claim an arrogant attitude (since the latter
implies "sue if you can"), but that's not yours, but planned and defended by
a team, so you don't need to take it personally. Asa has confirmed whatever
you said or forgot to say.
2.- Speaking of posting private letters to forums:
a.- You are invited to show portions of the letter (or specifically, your
answers) that contain private, sensitive or personal information. I emailed
a contact address at your site initially. Besides, I'm a member of the
affected project.
b.- You understand that you or your chaps aren't much qualified to demand me
to ask for permission for such a trivial action like reposting a general
topic, considering (a), right? There was not much idea of asking for
permission or at least requesting an opinion from us in wider concerns from
your team's side, do you remember?
c.- Now, my letter is a drop of water in a sea of opinions that transcended
your and our forums and went to several general SW forums. A lot of devs
around the world now know that AOL/Moz likes to walk the thin line that
separates what's dubiously legal (but maybe defendable with good lawyers and
a lot of money, like gangsters try to do) from what's inmoral to do.
Obviously, nobody at AOL was so stupid to try to hijack a name used by a big
company with great counsels, even if that name wasn't bureaucratically
trademarked.
3.- I decided to pass your letter due to your insistence in showing that
Firebird for you is only a code name. This was my main point (but I can't
apologize for finding your "corporate" attitude arrogant). However, due to
the user base of Mozilla, people here is convinced that if this action moves
forward, you will eventually take the name for your product even without
more explicit actions, because users of a browser can be much more than
users of a RDBMS. Oracle and MS CEO's should be laughing at this execrable
spectacle now if they happened to be notified by someone from their
marketing departments.
C.
[snip]
I understand some of your complaints. However:
1.- I think the attitude "we researched it", "there's no clash" (oh, one of
the Firebird's is furniture, the other is an airplane, right?) and "legally
is right" is enough for me to claim an arrogant attitude (since the latter
implies "sue if you can"), but that's not yours, but planned and defended by
a team, so you don't need to take it personally. Asa has confirmed whatever
you said or forgot to say.
2.- Speaking of posting private letters to forums:
a.- You are invited to show portions of the letter (or specifically, your
answers) that contain private, sensitive or personal information. I emailed
a contact address at your site initially. Besides, I'm a member of the
affected project.
b.- You understand that you or your chaps aren't much qualified to demand me
to ask for permission for such a trivial action like reposting a general
topic, considering (a), right? There was not much idea of asking for
permission or at least requesting an opinion from us in wider concerns from
your team's side, do you remember?
c.- Now, my letter is a drop of water in a sea of opinions that transcended
your and our forums and went to several general SW forums. A lot of devs
around the world now know that AOL/Moz likes to walk the thin line that
separates what's dubiously legal (but maybe defendable with good lawyers and
a lot of money, like gangsters try to do) from what's inmoral to do.
Obviously, nobody at AOL was so stupid to try to hijack a name used by a big
company with great counsels, even if that name wasn't bureaucratically
trademarked.
3.- I decided to pass your letter due to your insistence in showing that
Firebird for you is only a code name. This was my main point (but I can't
apologize for finding your "corporate" attitude arrogant). However, due to
the user base of Mozilla, people here is convinced that if this action moves
forward, you will eventually take the name for your product even without
more explicit actions, because users of a browser can be much more than
users of a RDBMS. Oracle and MS CEO's should be laughing at this execrable
spectacle now if they happened to be notified by someone from their
marketing departments.
C.