well, again out of lurking mode, but only for this post.

Well, I am mostly only reading these posts, and doing nothing at all for the
IB/FB community, but I don't like it to read IBDI anymore.
It is not the fact, that every post here is only about the firebird website,
but how the argument is held.

small examples:

M.S:
Hey, the website is shit, it has to be remade
Someone Else(S.E.) :
Well, here is my proposal, what do you think?
M.S.
Hey, this is total bullshit, really, this is a joke, you wanna kidding?
S.E.
Well, it is not that bad, but needs improvement
M.S.
No, it is total bullshit
S.E.
Hey, I think, you are going too far
M.S.
O.K. excuse me, but it is still total bullshit
M.S.
Hey, these are some logos, how do you find them?
S.E.
Several posts here
M.S.
O.K. guys, no matter what you think, I like this one most, this will be
the logo,
no discussion please
S.E.
hey, i made a variation of the logo, how do you think?
M.S.
Who allowed you to change my beautifull artowrk? this is bullshit!
M.S.
I made another firebird site, much cleaner and nicer
S.E.
Well, don't like it too much....
M.S.
Bullshit, this is perfect, you don't know nothing. This is perfect,
and somebody else should now do the work do implemnt it exaclty how
I intended it
S.E.
Hey, what about an attractive, appealing website? After all, the other
OS
Projects have atractive websites, too....
M.S.
This is bullshit. FB needs a clean website.....plain white background,
complicated naviagtion, no sidebar, no graphics, nothing exept my own
wonderful logo. It has to look exactly like a 1994-website in HTML1.0
as there are for sure people browsing the web with an x-terminal running
netscape 1.2, and it needs to be compatible
S.E.
What about a dynamic webpage, e.g. some server like zope or some other
php-system (running on almost every ISP out there, btw)
M.S.
This is bullshit, we are talking here about style only, because I
decided
so to do, not about technology
S.E.
Well, in order to get this list a bit more quiet again, here another,
purely website-related list, please post there in order to not loose to much
mebmers of IBDI, who can't listen to
all this bullshit anymore
M.S.
Who are you to create a new list???? I will still post to IBDI, nanana
yaddayaddayadda
S.E.
Hey, I am the moderator of this list, I created it, and was in the
IB-community here long before you had dry pants
M.S.
Dosn't bother me, I declared myself the new Firebird project leader,
yadda yadda yadda
M.S.
Oh, and nether mind, when pavel can create a new list, I can do this,
too, a much better one, nicer one, with only me subscribed, so no one is
disagreeing anymore with me.
M.S.
Yaddayaddayadda

Annotation. M.S. Version of the Firebird website is horrible. I don't
understand how this can be called clear and nice. It is empty, white,
boring, and the navigation is quite puzzling, and not clear at all.

O.K, guys and girls, this was my small little rant, hopefully, it will be
read with not too much anger.

I am awaiting much flames, and don't mind them.



Nick Josipovic
Corporate Market Intelligence

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