Subject Re: [IBDI] Dear Helen...
Author Adam Clarke
While (as always) Helen has much to offer on this topic, and I respect her
leadership position in the community please don't under value what Markus
perspective has to offer.

Markus has come in to have a look at Firebird and discovered a tangles mess
of interwoven websites which reflect the tangled mess of the current divide
between Firebird, Interbase and the various interest groups that exist in

While I understand these better than Markus seems to, his confusion tells us
something useful. The current situation is confusing. It alienates new
people because there is overlapping information/utility/goals behind each of
the websites associated with IB/Firebird. It's difficult to understand and
it's too easy to trip over someone's jangled nerves.

Marcus wishes for a world where we can ignore Borland and their disingenuous
OSS marketing tactics. And you know what, so do I.

At some point a decision needs to be taken that there is no point staying on
the fence with FireBird, particularly when it comes to marketing it to
newcomers. Not doing so leads to a situation where potential new users move
on to MySQL or Postgresql just because their situation seems more stable and
scruitable than the Firebird one.

my 2c only.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nando Dessena" <nandod@...>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [IBDI] Dear Helen...

> Markus,
> > Dear Helen,
> you should direct private posts to private mailboxes, otherwise avoid to
> start new threads continuing old discussions; it gets difficult to
> follow.
> Anyway, here we are...
> > if you have read my HowTo, you have certainly noticed that it's based
> > on a careful analysis and not at all emotional. For some reason you
> > have decided not reply with answers to the topics I raised, but
> > rather with a flame fest.
> Just my two cents: I couldn't find anything like a flame fest in Helen's
> reply. I believe her analysis of your document is exact and I too had
> the feeling that there were many things that you just hadn't the time
> and/or possibility to know, to write such a paper.
> One could think that the helpful hindsights Helen gave you (us) in that
> reply are just what was needed to gain a clearer understanding of the
> complex situation, if only one doesn't take it as a flame post...
> I wonder what the rest of the good people in this list think about
> Helen's post: was it a flame or not?
> If you think that anyone having a different opinion than yours is
> flaming, then it becomes clear you weren't here during the very bad
> times of InterBase agony, otherwise you just wouldn't have survived.
> Ciao
> --
> ____
> _/\/ando
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