Sorry, I have to disagree big time.

If it is the Borland tree only, I'm outahere. They will find a way to kill
the whole thing. As far as Borland was concerned, Interbase was dead one
year ago. People from the community managed to save it, and yet were
betrayed once again.

I've developed a client application in C++ that uses the Interbase API. I
am building in a switch that will use ODBC. If I see that development
becomes dependent on Borland in any way, I will switch to SQL Server. If
Firebird continues independent development, I will stay with Firebird.

more below

At 09:24 AM 1/17/01 +0100, you wrote:

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>> Perhaps we should do a poll to see how many people want Firebird and Borland
>> to resolve their efforts into a single unified development effort.
>>
>
>I vote for the unification of the development effort. And as soon as possible.
>
>I do not care wether Borland contributes much or not through its employees
>to the new developments of the source tree. I do not care wether the product
>is called InterBase or FireBird. But I am concerned that there are TWO code
>trees. Borland *must* give admin rights on the CVS tree to at least 2 or 3
>well-known and devoted to the task people of the InterBase community outside
>Borland).

What they give one day can be taken away the next

>Borland *must* work publicly in the open-sourced tree.

Policy stated one day can be changed the next

>The
>Community *must* work in the so-called Borland tree, be adult enough to
>forget the past issues (don't you say "let by-gones be by-gones" in usa ?),
>and work on code and share it.

The community is generous and trustworthy. Borland is not.

>Borland *must* open-source the IB-6
>documentation. You can't open-source a product while keeping in the
>refrigerator the documentation. Childish game.

An example of why I don't want to depend on them. They don't get it.

>I'm no guru, no evangelist, but have my eyes opened : the future of
>InterBase/FireBird depends on the unification. InterBase is already loosing
>users. I would not like the idea of being one of the last ones to abandon
>the ship. It's not yet sinking, it still can be 'repaired'. But time is
>certainly working against it.

Firebird can thrive. It will move even faster if people quit holding their
breaths waiting for Borland to come around. Just forget them and move
ahead. All the talent needed is present. We will actually chase talent away
if we force them to stay in this bad marriage with Borland.

Again, only my opinion :)

Kyle

>Olivier Mascia, om@..., Senior Software Engineer
>T.I.P. Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com, Director
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>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jason Wharton" <jwharton@...>
>To: <IBDI@egroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [IBDI] Re: Comments on IBDI article I just posted...
>
>
>> Ok folks, I think my point is more clear now.
>>
>> > > >http://www.interbase2000.org
>>
>> Please let me know what you think.
>>
>> Let's keep discussion on this topic rolling as I think it is of imperative
>> interest for our future.
>>
>> Perhaps we should do a poll to see how many people want Firebird and Borland
>> to resolve their efforts into a single unified development effort.
>>
>> Also, let's bring fourth ideas on how people think this should be
>> accomplished.
>>
>> Be as detailed as you like.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason Wharton
>> CPS - Mesa AZ
>> http://www.ibobjects.com
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