Subject | Re: [IBO] IBO for Delphi 2009 |
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Author | Jason Wharton |
Post date | 2009-04-30T19:16:46Z |
Martijn
You speak as if I am deliberately transferring burdens. I don't appreciate
what this insinuates. You don't know what I've been through and apparently
that's of no concern. Fair enough. If and when you have similar problems,
don't complain if nobody gives a damn about you. You exaggerated your
remarks but I forgive you for that because you are making some valid points.
Two years went by, if it was even that long, not because of neglect or
disinterest on my part, but because you were not clear in how you described
your issue. I told you it was finished over and over and it was as I
understood it but you were not sufficiently specific and left things in
limbo. You share the blame in this.
You often expect me to read your mind or figure things out on my own based
on very minimal or sketchy remarks. You don't take the time to present well
developed issues or cases. True, you can say it's my job to know all of this
stuff and you can criticise me over that too. But, IBO is a hybrid between
full blown commercial and open source community driven. It is this way
exactly because I realize as one person I need a lot of help and
contribution from the community. That's why I structure things as I do so
that the community aspect can give back where I am lacking. And, I give a
lot to the community via the Trustware license that allows many to use it
without monetary cost.
So, feel free to criticise me based on the standards of what a commercial
operation should deliver but at the same time how about you start doing more
of a conscientuous effort to operate towards me in the spirit of a community
driven project and go the extra mile more?
Regards,
Jason LeRoy Wharton
You speak as if I am deliberately transferring burdens. I don't appreciate
what this insinuates. You don't know what I've been through and apparently
that's of no concern. Fair enough. If and when you have similar problems,
don't complain if nobody gives a damn about you. You exaggerated your
remarks but I forgive you for that because you are making some valid points.
Two years went by, if it was even that long, not because of neglect or
disinterest on my part, but because you were not clear in how you described
your issue. I told you it was finished over and over and it was as I
understood it but you were not sufficiently specific and left things in
limbo. You share the blame in this.
You often expect me to read your mind or figure things out on my own based
on very minimal or sketchy remarks. You don't take the time to present well
developed issues or cases. True, you can say it's my job to know all of this
stuff and you can criticise me over that too. But, IBO is a hybrid between
full blown commercial and open source community driven. It is this way
exactly because I realize as one person I need a lot of help and
contribution from the community. That's why I structure things as I do so
that the community aspect can give back where I am lacking. And, I give a
lot to the community via the Trustware license that allows many to use it
without monetary cost.
So, feel free to criticise me based on the standards of what a commercial
operation should deliver but at the same time how about you start doing more
of a conscientuous effort to operate towards me in the spirit of a community
driven project and go the extra mile more?
Regards,
Jason LeRoy Wharton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martijn Tonies" <m.tonies@...>
To: <IBObjects@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [IBO] IBO for Delphi 2009
>> IBO 4.8.7 has been stable for Fb 2/2.1 support with the older Delphi
>> model
>> for some long time now. The current demand for D2009 compatibility seems
>> "urgent" for the relatively small number of shops that have taken it up.
>> The issue of UTF8 client support is still wide open for Delphi,
>> considering that D2009 on its own can't provide clean or adequate support
>> for it and older Delphis need TNT to achieve it. The "unusable Alpha
>> Version" thread seems (erroneously) to suggest that IBO has a duty to fix
>> what Embarcadero has broken.
>>
>>>...and especially when we think that he's trying to do it *alone*...
>>
>> *Alone* is not a new situation w.r.t. Jason's IBO development. Two
>> things
>> that seem (to me, at least) to be of intense importance now are:
>>
>> 1) such substantial R & D costs time and money. For a breadwinner with
>> seven children, it's not hard for anyone to figure out that a supply of
>> income must be an essential element in the equation.
>>
>> 2) without a real-life development environment to test in, Jason is more
>> than ever before reliant on field-testers who *can* provide that.
>>
>> If a situation arose where both 1) and 2) came rolled up together, i.e.,
>> if Jason were in one of more contract development positions with those
>> sites that most need the bleeding edge features, it's likely to be
>> infinitely more favourable to success and satisfaction all around.
>>
>> Just my 0.002 cents-worth.
>
> Delphi 2009 has been in field tests since early 2008, IBO, as always the
> last
> few years, has been lagging way behind ... again. Firebird 2 and 2.1
> (partly)
> support came way after the initial Firebird betas, this has its effect on
> the
> IBO users, like in our product Database Workbench.
>
> Having to provide for 7 children is not what -we- have to deal with.
> Wouldn't
> it be strange that I would start saying to my customers that I cannot
> spend
> more time & money on Upscene because of (well, not children in my case) my
> hobbies?
>
> Putting your own burdens upon your customers just isn't fair, is it?
>
> In the past, I've told Jason face to face about new features in Firebird
> and
> he
> implemented support for them 2 years after.
>
> I've been a long time IBO user and hardly ever complained publicly, but I
> can
> no longer say to people that IBO is the right choice for Firebird access.
> Haven't
> been saying it for the past two years.
>
> IBO is -always- lagging behind. Period.
>
> It wasn't that way a few years ago, which is why I selected it as the main
> componentset for all InterBase and Firebird access, but someone somewhere
> has stopped devoting time to it and now expects us to "hang on" while
> there's
> another delay of about a year?
>
>
> With regards,
>
> Martijn Tonies
> Upscene Productions
> http://www.upscene.com