--- In IBObjects@yahoogroups.com, Helen Borrie <helebor@...> wrote:

>
> At 07:36 PM 17/02/2006, mitch_landor wrote:
>
> >If this works without, why would I ever need TIBOTransaction?
>
> Don't take offence, as offence is not intended...but the
> VCL-compatible data access components are "dumbed down" to the lowest
> common denominator. Paradox - on which the BDE is built - doesn't
> support transactions and, traditionally, Delphi programmers cut their
> database teeth on Paradox. So the BDE/VCL model has only this one
> embedded transaction and doesn't support many of the advanced
> features of IB/Fb. It has been a common route to go from Paradox +
> BDE to InterBase + BDE and then to graduate to InterBase/Firebird +
> IBO sans BDE.
>
> So think of the TIBO - "TDataset-compatible" - components as a route
> into non-BDE application development for those who still need to get
> their head around a multi-user database management system and
> specifically, how to use transactions to advantage.

I didn't take offence....just was puzzled :)

I'd love to use the native IBO stuff but I assume that if I need to
use some of the fancy Developer Express components there is no
alternative but to use the TIBO components?

>
> >How do I find out exactly which TIBO components must be used versus
> >which standard Delphi objects can be used?
>
> That part is really simple. If the component belongs to the TIBO--
> prefix series, you use the VCL's TDatasource and
> controls. Period. The "native IBO" components, with the prefix
> "TIB_---" comprise a complete series that has its own bottom-up
> hierarchies, including controls, that must be linked to native IB_--
> datasets via the native TIB_Datasource.
>
>
> >I must say the IBO documentation seems very cryptic for mere mortals
> >to understand. It would be great if there were a short "idiots guide"
> >to getting up and running quickly.
>
> The "idiot's guide" is the Delphi documentation. There is the IBO
> Getting Started Guide, which introduces a lot of the concepts used in
> the native TIB_ classes, but it's not designed for those who are
> "rusty" in either Delphi or SQL database programming.
>
> Sorry, I don't know what else to recommend, other than hunting up
> some articles on the Web on the subject of client/server programming
> with Delphi -- they ABOUND! And, to get acquainted with the database,
> you could do yourself a favour and join the firebird-support
> list. If you have a birthday coming up, you could drop hints about
> this for a present:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590592794
>
> :-)
> Helen
>