> > I just need to figure a way that whenever I have
> > a problem I need to get an automatic message sent
> > to me saying _Can you give a demo please_ :>
>
> I'm starting to feel like that is my job for the list lately.
> I used to be so eager to take any hint of a problem and spend hours with
> it. But now, there are thousands of developers using IBO where 4 years
> ago there were only scores.

There are two sides to every problem.

We know there are a few remaining niggles in IBO4, but since
at some point it has to go into 'windows' code, cracking a
problem can involve some major work of replacing the base
windows code.

Such problems such as the 'disappearing grid' are almost
impossible to debug when you can't even create the problem
in a sample. Until someone can isolate this particular
problem, I don't believe that Jason ( who has not seen the
problem live ) should waste time on it.

The other side of the coin is that trying to isolate the
problem ones self give a very good insite on how things are
working, and often isolates the problem. In a lot of cases,
there is nothing for Jason to do, because the 'problem' was
one of understanding rather than a fault in the code, and
these problems can not be created without a working sample
anyway! More often again these are in the underlying code,
and a work around is just hiding a particular windows
problem. If only Microsoft provided the sore of support
Jason does - arn't there some 100000 outstanding windows
bugs?

Added to all this off cause is that we have 8 different
development environments, 2 versions of tools, and various
flavours of the database. I am just trying to cope with the
three builder tools ( 3, 4 & 5 ), add 4 versions of Delphi,
Kylix and the various sub levels of each of these (
standard, profesional, enterprise ) and the problems
multiply. And now there is a newer version of Firebird!

The 'automatic' sample please is the only way that ongoing
support can be provided, and the sample should also include
version of IBO, development environment and version of
Firebird/Interbase.

On that front does anybody have a strong view on droping
Builder3 and Delphi3 from IBO4 so that we can actually start
adding proper 64bit support amongst other things, and reduce
the amount of time spent cross checking builds by 25%. As
far as I am concerned, Builder 3 was never used for
production projects, it was not stable enough, and we had to
pay Borland for Builder4 which fixed SOME of the problems.
The rest are still present in Builder5!
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Lester Caine
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