Subject | Re: Windows O/S Config for 50-user system |
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Author | Adam |
Post date | 2005-01-20T01:35:06Z |
I may be entering this discussion a bit late and therefore missed
something, but I was under the impression that the client activation
license with Windows is about simultaneous sessions, rather than
connecting users to your software.
You are buying the license to use the windows desktop so to speak.
That is why you can't have two simultaneous users on an XP box
through remote desktop or remote assistance, but you can have as many
terminal server users as you have cals for them.
Also, some early versions of XP came with a CAL that you can install
on any server, but they changed that when they figured they could get
more money. But if your version of XP is over 18 months old, there is
a good chance you are entitled to a free cal, but you have to find
the page on the MS website (good luck)
Obviously, if you are running MS SQL Server, then MS has every right
to a client license for each database connection, but this is the
first I have heard of that restriction on a connection to a service.
No-one could operate a website on IIS if you needed to pay a client
license for "user" connecting to port 80.
But back to the original question.
I would go with Win 2003 Server over XP for this function. XP would
probably "do the job", but you would need to manually switch off a
lot of rubbish.
If money is a factor here, then I agree that you are far better with
a RAID 5 of 15,000 SCSI drives and a lot of good quality RAM running
XP than mirrored 7200 IDE drives and less el-cheapo RAM running 2003
server.
Adam.
--- In firebird-support@yahoogroups.com, "Myles Wakeham" <myles@t...>
wrote:
something, but I was under the impression that the client activation
license with Windows is about simultaneous sessions, rather than
connecting users to your software.
You are buying the license to use the windows desktop so to speak.
That is why you can't have two simultaneous users on an XP box
through remote desktop or remote assistance, but you can have as many
terminal server users as you have cals for them.
Also, some early versions of XP came with a CAL that you can install
on any server, but they changed that when they figured they could get
more money. But if your version of XP is over 18 months old, there is
a good chance you are entitled to a free cal, but you have to find
the page on the MS website (good luck)
Obviously, if you are running MS SQL Server, then MS has every right
to a client license for each database connection, but this is the
first I have heard of that restriction on a connection to a service.
No-one could operate a website on IIS if you needed to pay a client
license for "user" connecting to port 80.
But back to the original question.
I would go with Win 2003 Server over XP for this function. XP would
probably "do the job", but you would need to manually switch off a
lot of rubbish.
If money is a factor here, then I agree that you are far better with
a RAID 5 of 15,000 SCSI drives and a lot of good quality RAM running
XP than mirrored 7200 IDE drives and less el-cheapo RAM running 2003
server.
Adam.
--- In firebird-support@yahoogroups.com, "Myles Wakeham" <myles@t...>
wrote:
> Also keep in mind that the EULA is different from country tocountry. Make
> sure you check your own local version of this.system
>
> Myles
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter sanders [mailto:psanders@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:34 PM
> > To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [firebird-support] Windows O/S Config for 50-user
> >limit and
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > From the limited EULA reading (some time ago) Microsoft DOES
> > hasmerely
> > the right to limit (if Microsoft chooses) the number of users by
> > specifying within the license (EULA) that their (MS) softwarecannot be
> > used with more than xx users (insert specific value here).more users
> >
> > While it may very well be technically possible to connect many
> > than the software EULA specifies by any protocol desired, if theEULA user
> > exceeds the EULA specified connections, then they (users) areprobably would
> > contradicting the EULA agreement.
> >
> > This could very well be a moot point of course as Microsoft
> > not police the EULA, however MS could police it and take action.continually
> >
> > This EULA limiting is of course all an excuse for Microsoft to
> > improve their revenue raising. For all we know it could be just afew
> > lines of code that change between XP Home, XP Pro and WindowsServer 2003
> > (pick your own year here :D), but of course the price changesPro, and
> > substantially.
> >
> > I have not read the whole EULA agreement for MY version of XP
> > would prefer not to. However from what I have read the gist of itis that
> > Microsoft provide this software without ANY responsibilty otherthan
> > paying you back for the purchase price paid. If anything goeswrong it's
> > NOT their fault NO MATTER WHAT! However should YOU the userexceed their
> > EULA they do have EVERY right to "wipe the floor with you"!version.
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:55:01 +1100, Helen Borrie <helebor@t...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > At 11:23 PM 19/01/2005 +0000, Artur Anjos wrote:
> > >
> > >> But this is another discussion: Kevin NEEDS to buy a server
> > >> The problem is with EULA. Microsoft don't allow more than (5or 10, can
> > >> be sure) connections in the EULA. Just pick up a XP Pro CD andlook at
> > >> it.connections,
> > >> But it's still possible in an technical way. :-)
> > >>
> > >> One of our clients used a W2K Pro for sometime with 32
> > >> before someone looked at EULA. They switch to Linux.achieve better
> > >> Yes, there are times that Microsoft help our clients to
> > >> solutions. :-)using
> > >
> > > Artur - double check that. I believe the EULA applies to nodes
> > theto as
> > > proprietary Windows networking protocol - what we loosely refer
> > > "NetBEUI". Windows doesn't own the TCP/IP technology and,AFAIK, there
> > > isthe
> > > no limit (and no way that Microsoft or its software can limit)
> > numberhttp://www.opera.com/m2/
> > > of TCP/IP clients to Win2K, WinXP or S2K3.
> > >
> > > ./heLen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Peter
> >
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