Subject Re: Out of memory
Author Michael Vilhelmsen <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M
thank you for your time so far.

I'll leave it as it is now, since this is something the customer only
does once in a while.

Myabe I change this later, either to a stored procedure entirely or
to some smaller partions.

Michael

--- In ib-support@yahoogroups.com, "Alan McDonald" <alan@m...> wrote:
> if all you select in the first instance is 500 primary keys, then
you use
> these 5000 integers to select the variants whose foreign key is the
primary
> key you have selected. then this will certainly speed things up. I
would
> have to test it to see if committing each 50 variant
updates/inserts would
> be faster. It would be an easy thing to try both ways.
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Vilhelmsen <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...>
> [mailto:Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...]
> Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 11:28 PM
> To: ib-support@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ib-support] Re: Out of memory
>
>
> My problem lies in, that my customer has created somewhere around
> 5000 articles.
> Each of those has on the average of 40 - 50 variants.
>
> And its for each variant I has to do the update / insert.
>
> I could select all articles first, and then for each article select
> all the appr. variants.
>
> Then after each 50 articles or so I could do a commit.
>
> Would that increase speed significantly ?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In ib-support@yahoogroups.com, "Alan McDonald" <alan@m...>
wrote:
> > The unidirectional setting certainly reduced memory requirements.
> That's
> > probably what made the difference for you.
> > Hopefully you have a hierarchy in your record schema, so that for
> so many
> > child records (228,000) you have a structure of parent records.
> e.g. rooms,
> > inside buildings, inside complexes, inside precincts.
> > You could start by selecting distinct precincts, then looping thru
> the
> > precincts, select all the complexes (for that precinct), then
> looping thru
> > the complexes, select all the buildings (for the complex), then
> looping thru
> > the buildings, select all the rooms (for that building)... that
way
> a select
> > will only have the rooms of one building at a time. You'd be very
> surprised
> > what a speed increase you will get by processing in this way. You
> would be
> > even better off doing this processing on the server under SP
> control.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Vilhelmsen <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...>
> > [mailto:Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...]
> > Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 10:46 PM
> > To: ib-support@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ib-support] Re: Out of memory
> >
> >
> > That means, that I should do my select in portions instead ?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In ib-support@yahoogroups.com, "Alan McDonald" <alan@m...>
> wrote:
> > > Sounds to me like it was telling you something very sensible.
> > > Let's imagine for a moment that your database table grows over
> time
> > until it
> > > has 50 million records. Does your current design in any way
cater
> > for this?
> > > To select 50 million records (or even 228,000 records) in one
hit
> > is not a
> > > good idea. There are many ways to design your processing such
that
> > only
> > > small numbers of records are snatched off the server at any one
> > time. I
> > > would seriously think of these ways and ways in which you can
> > normalise your
> > > data such that there is little or no need to see all records in
a
> > table in
> > > one select. Your performance will improve a hundred or more fold
> > too. You
> > > might be very surprised.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Vilhelmsen <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...>
> > > [mailto:Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...]
> > > Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 9:12 PM
> > > To: ib-support@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ib-support] Re: Out of memory
> > >
> > >
> > > To answer my own question.
> > >
> > > I set UniDirectional to true, and the problem was gone.
> > >
> > > But I still would like to know why I got the error in the first
> > place.
> > > And if I could do something to avoid it !
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In ib-support@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Vilhelmsen
> > > <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...>" <Michael.Vilhelmsen@M...> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have an appl. that contects to an Firebird DB (1.0).
> > > > In my appl. I have made a rutine, that select 228.000 records,
> and
> > > > parse through each of them.
> > > > For each record I call a stored procedure that either update
> > > another
> > > > record or insert a record.
> > > >
> > > > That'll say it will update / insert up to 228.000 records.
> > > >
> > > > Does two query both uses the same transaction.
> > > >
> > > > Before starting I do a
> > > >
> > > > if not MyTrans.active then
> > > > MyTrans.StartTransaction
> > > >
> > > > After the rutine has run through I do
> > > >
> > > > MyTrans.Commit
> > > >
> > > > On a smaller dataset it completes with no error.
> > > > But on this bigger dataset (which I doesn't find that big) I
get
> > > this
> > > > error:
> > > >
> > > > Project xxx raised exception class EOutOfMemory with
> message "Out
> > > of
> > > > memory". Process stopped.
> > > >
> > > > I get it running both from inside D5 and running my appl.
alone.
> > > >
> > > > I kept an eye on my Task manager and all the time I had at
least
> > 96
> > > > Mb of physical memory, and my swapfile wasn't used that much.
> > > >
> > > > I have even tried running the program without any other
programs
> > > > running on my machine at the same time.
> > > > Same result.
> > > >
> > > > Is this caursed by my program, because it doesn't allocate
> enough
> > > > memory for it self ?
> > > > Can I change that ?
> > > >
> > > > I know in Turbo Pascal 7 I could set some compiler directives
to
> > > > increase the amount of memory available to my program.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Michael
> > >
> > >
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