jini us,

> >It sounds as if your environment has a pretty lousy
> >security design.
> You don't know anything about me.

Helen was not talking about you, but about the environment. Don't take (and
make) this discussion personnal.

Is quite commom in database security that security isn't related to "pay
checks". It's usual that people that owns the company, or CEO's, don't have
administrator access over servers or databases. They are very well payed,
and they should know a lot of company info that no other one should, but
unless thay are also computer experts, they don't need - and it will be a
lack of security if they have - admin rights.

There's no secure installations. The same way we don't have secure banks.
What we - database developers - must know is the places that are more
vulnerable to be attacked, and close at least every door we know about.

Artur