--- In IBDI@y..., "Artur Anjos" <arsoft@n...> wrote:

> Marco:
>
> But, resuming:
>
> What we need it's a combination of a Tank (Robust) with a Sports Car (Fast).
> That's the way to show that FireBird is Fast and Robust.

You can have only difficoulties in transated concepts in cultural dependent images :( (read Alan Cooper books www.cooper.com. They are GREAT for program interface developement, belive me!)
To draw a tank, you have to draw a gun too...
A tank is:
-damage
-noise
-fat and slow
just the contrary of what Firebird is:
-it helps you
-it' works smootly and silently ;)
-slim and compact (embeddable)
YOU think tank=robust, but it's just your choise in your mind, and it's your mind ;)
You would better have a symbol that has nothing with conceptual, just to he easely recognized and remembered.
And about a sport car... well.. it's very far from a database engine, who will easely associate with Firebird?
And what can be better that the actual symbol of the name of Firebrid? (the phoenix)

I return to my first post: use the actual logo, just add some "value" for "supporters", give them (us) the proud of having that image in our products
Just my 2 cents
Marco Meanrdi