Hi Nick :-)),

I totally agree! What a nice summarization :-)!

Pavel, keep on the work!!!

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""Josipovic, Nick"" <nick.josipovic@...> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> well, again out of lurking mode, but only for this post.
>
> Well, I am mostly only reading these posts, and doing nothing at all for

the

> IB/FB community, but I don't like it to read IBDI anymore.
> It is not the fact, that every post here is only about the firebird

website,

> but how the argument is held.
>
> small examples:
>
> M.S:
> Hey, the website is shit, it has to be remade
> Someone Else(S.E.) :
> Well, here is my proposal, what do you think?
> M.S.
> Hey, this is total bullshit, really, this is a joke, you wanna

kidding?

> S.E.
> Well, it is not that bad, but needs improvement
> M.S.
> No, it is total bullshit
> S.E.
> Hey, I think, you are going too far
> M.S.
> O.K. excuse me, but it is still total bullshit
> M.S.
> Hey, these are some logos, how do you find them?
> S.E.
> Several posts here
> M.S.
> O.K. guys, no matter what you think, I like this one most, this will

be

> the logo,
> no discussion please
> S.E.
> hey, i made a variation of the logo, how do you think?
> M.S.
> Who allowed you to change my beautifull artowrk? this is bullshit!
> M.S.
> I made another firebird site, much cleaner and nicer
> S.E.
> Well, don't like it too much....
> M.S.
> Bullshit, this is perfect, you don't know nothing. This is perfect,
> and somebody else should now do the work do implemnt it exaclty how
> I intended it
> S.E.
> Hey, what about an attractive, appealing website? After all, the other
> OS
> Projects have atractive websites, too....
> M.S.
> This is bullshit. FB needs a clean website.....plain white background,
> complicated naviagtion, no sidebar, no graphics, nothing exept my own
> wonderful logo. It has to look exactly like a 1994-website in HTML1.0
> as there are for sure people browsing the web with an x-terminal

running

> netscape 1.2, and it needs to be compatible
> S.E.
> What about a dynamic webpage, e.g. some server like zope or some other
> php-system (running on almost every ISP out there, btw)
> M.S.
> This is bullshit, we are talking here about style only, because I
> decided
> so to do, not about technology
> S.E.
> Well, in order to get this list a bit more quiet again, here another,
> purely website-related list, please post there in order to not loose to

much

> mebmers of IBDI, who can't listen to
> all this bullshit anymore
> M.S.
> Who are you to create a new list???? I will still post to IBDI, nanana
> yaddayaddayadda
> S.E.
> Hey, I am the moderator of this list, I created it, and was in the
> IB-community here long before you had dry pants
> M.S.
> Dosn't bother me, I declared myself the new Firebird project leader,
> yadda yadda yadda
> M.S.
> Oh, and nether mind, when pavel can create a new list, I can do this,
> too, a much better one, nicer one, with only me subscribed, so no one is
> disagreeing anymore with me.
> M.S.
> Yaddayaddayadda
>
> Annotation. M.S. Version of the Firebird website is horrible. I don't
> understand how this can be called clear and nice. It is empty, white,
> boring, and the navigation is quite puzzling, and not clear at all.
>
> O.K, guys and girls, this was my small little rant, hopefully, it will be
> read with not too much anger.
>
> I am awaiting much flames, and don't mind them.
>
>
>
> Nick Josipovic
> Corporate Market Intelligence
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