--- In IBDI@y..., "Jason Wharton" <jwharton@i...> wrote:
> I fully agree it is time this entire discussion moved to a more
> appropriate location. It is clear things are in the detail oriented
> stage and this isn't the place for details. It's a hub and seeding
> ground.

Well Jason, I think I'm not extremely choosy. I only have a few very
basic ideas about what a Firebird site should look like in order to
give an acceptable presentation of this community. Here they are:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBDI/message/2554

Not a single one of these is realized in the current Firebird site.

This are not details, there are fundamental problems in the current
presentation of the community.

> This list is totally saturated by these issues and it is time the
> details were ironed out elsewhere. Because Pavel has been with
> Firebird so long and has *done* quite a bit already I would like
> all those interested in continuing this discussion to move to the
> list he has created for doing so.

> This is where this discussion will be moving to:
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/firebird-website

As explained by Pavel in an earlier post, this new list is for
communication amongst webmasters. The questions I want to discuss are
about the type of website Firebird wants to have and how it intends
to organize itself to realize it. That's much more than a webmaster
talk.

Therefore, if I may, I suggest to rather use the new list for general
discussion about Firebird internals:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird

> If this continues we are going to spoil the atmosphere and balance
> of this list and start losing members such that is all this is
> going to be is a list for discussing Firebird web-site issues.

Ok, it's gona move.

> Frankly, I could hardly care less about it myself. I'm happy with
> what we have so far.

I'm not.

> We just need somewhere to go to participate in
> development, get information and builds. I'm glad many of you do
> care about the web-site and I appreciate your efforts.
>
> If anyone here insists on making the IBDI list a "captive audience"
> I will go against my best wishes and start selectively moderating
> their posts. If you disagree with this then discuss this with me
> privately, not here.

Sure, I understand the IBDI list has a very wide audience, with
persons interested in the InterBase/Firebird OSS movement for various
reasons. My apologies to those who I may have disturbed.

Markus.