Here is another voice I like to ear...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pavel Cisar" <pcisar@...>
Subject: Re: [IBDI] Names of our lists/newsgroups


> The whole IB/FB support list issue has two sides: political and
> technical.
Yeap. I've talking about the political.

> b) reliability of yahoogroups.
>
> It just happen that it was not worth the effort to move ib-support to
> another more NG friendly location/host. Maybe it's right time to re-
> evaluate this issue again. Proposed creation of ib-support at
> SourceForge under Firebird project would be very quick and easy
> solution, but unfortunatelly, this has also some political incidence
> that I (and some others) would like to avoid. So we would need to
> find other host for mailing list side of ib-support. Any proposal?

I could help with this. I have the resources. I have already said that I can
put this resources available to this comunity. Just point me what you need.
I'll be VERY glad to help.

> 2) The political side is mostly clear to all involved. The ib-support is
> a neutral ground for all ib/fb users regardless what version, flavour
> or operation environment they use. It's unique, as there is no other
> such forum, and there is a lot of value if we'll retain it's open nature.

I agree with this: we must maintain the spirit of the list.

> Of course, it can look like Firebird project lose here something in
> favour of other IB versions, but actually the opposite is true. The
> success of any open source project is derived from it's community,
> where the bigger and more diverse is better, because free flow of
> ideas and experience is a blood of any open source project. And
> after all, the openess and non-discriminatory nature is a pilar of
> Open Source, so we can't compromise it.
>
> Just my 0.02c

It seems like 10c to me.

> There is nothing wrong with InterBase
> that Firebird can't fix for you
> http://www.firebirdsql.org