Subject | Re: [IBDI] Re: PHOENIX IN ASCENDANT |
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Author | dcalford |
Post date | 2000-07-29T17:57:44Z |
Love the idea,
It would be a good and fitting name, appropriate to the situation.
If you are serious, I think that something can be worked out.
regards
Dalton
baudtender1@... wrote:
It would be a good and fitting name, appropriate to the situation.
If you are serious, I think that something can be worked out.
regards
Dalton
baudtender1@... wrote:
> I think Borland/Inprise's actions have been perfectly putrid, and
> I want to throw my support behind Ann's and Helen's ventures.
>
> I haven't got much money or man-hours to devote right now (being
> in the middle of some huge projects) but I might just have
> something even more valuable to offer.
>
> If Borland wants the name "Interbase", I say let them have it!
> This is an incredible opportunity to differentiate and divorce
> this community from them and their sleazy actions. The irony
> is that if we fork from the very start and create a name that
> is widely recognized and admired, we can prevent Borland from
> using that trademark to promote their own doomed and dying
> distro.
>
> As for the new name, I'd stay away from "Phoenix" unless you
> want an uphill trademark fight from the start with the BIOS
> company.
>
> Properly searched and registered trademarks cost big bucks, and
> there's been more than one company that ended up in dire straits
> because they cut corners or ignored this fact. I happen to own
> a registered trademark covering computer software that I paid
> the big bucks for and am no longer using. I would love to see
> this used for Ann's venture and/or a new "forked" IB distribution
> since I have high hopes for both.
>
> It's also appropriate enough to be postively eerie, but you've
> got to humor me and read through my drivel to find out what it is!
>
> Back in 1984, I created a telecommunications program for the
> just-born Macintosh and released it as shareware. I named
> it after the first song I heard on a tavern jukebox ("Lunatic
> Fringe", by Red Rider - but the jukebox guy spelled the band's
> name wrong and used the cartoon comic strip character's spelling.)
>
> I located and licensed the trademark "Red Ryder" from the
> widow of the comic strip creator for a reasonable fee (it
> turned out that this was a gift since I never used any
> images or references to that character and their trademark
> had nothing to do with computer software, but once I gave
> them money out of ignorance I was legally tied in.)
>
> The product did extremely well, and years went by. The user
> manual got so large that it had to be distributed in bound-
> and-printed form, so we took the product out of shareware
> and into strict commercial distribution - the community
> didn't flinch and embraced our actions with incredible
> support. When the daughter (a Hollywood lawyer) of the
> "Red Ryder" trademark heir got wind of just how well my
> product was doing, she waited until I was a couple of weeks
> away from releasing a new version, and then told me it
> would cost me a HUGE amount of money to renew the trademark
> license (which was up for renewal in 4 months.)
>
> I could have paid it, but I felt it was ethically wrong to
> participate in this. So, I retained a trademark law firm
> and renamed the product in mid-stream. I took all of the
> pre-printed manuals, disks and advertising artwork using
> "Red Ryder" to the dump.
>
> I played my case to the media and came out smelling like
> a rose and the product did better than ever (until the
> Internet finally made it obsolete.) The new name, and the
> trademark I am offering is "White Knight" This invokes
> the image of the righteous hero coming to the aid of an
> oppressed individual facing imminent danger.
>
> So, if there's any interest in this bought-and-paid-for
> trademark, please let me know at wsw@... and let's
> talk about it.
>
> S.W.
>
> P.S. Here is an impossibly long URL to verify this (since
> eGroups and/or your browser or mail-reader will almost
> certainly split it, you'll have to paste it back together
> manually):
>
> http://trademarks.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+ALL+3+988462+0+0+63703
> 7+F+9+15+1+MS%2fwhite+AND+MS%2fknight
>
>
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