>> "As Jim described it, a plug-in would be required for base
>> functionality - - that's just wrong."
>>
>> Some of us might politely wish to take an alternate view:
>> anything that can be a plugin (even default functionality)
>> should be.

> Obviously, we disagree, which is our mutual right.

> I just think of the average user trying to use the engine -
> How much will they need to worry about?

> In my model; Nothing. Just install the engine, no plug-ins
> to think about and go.

> In the alternate; They must be concerned with the installing
> and setting up of the plug-ins.

I really do not see the two ideas as mutually exclusive. It
should not be too difficult to have a default installation
process that plugs in the default facilities.

Being able to completely unplug the default, particularly when
talking about security, seems to me to be a desireable option.

--
Geoff Worboys
Telesis Computing