> >Isn't this the same as embedding java into the database engine? I
> >personally hate oracle for having done such a thing as it is
> slow,
> >makes the database engine un-reliable by asking the user from
> avoiding
> >the use of network level code that would block, avoid user
> interface
> >interaction in stored procedures...
> >
>
> Java can be reliably implemented in a secure manner. All native
> calls are under control of the virtual machine which can enforce
> any policy deemed prudent.

But whats the need for added complexity?? As long as the database
engine has a way to write stored procedures and triggers efficiently
(i.e. implemented in such a way that it makes the best use of the DB
engine) I personally feel the database engine designer has done a great
job!

>
> If you are willing to take guidance from Oracles bad implementation,
> pre-version 7 would have convinced you that relational databases
> were inherently bad.
>

Whenever I can use a flat file to store something and avoid an RDBMS..
I really do!