Subject | Re: [IBO] EXTREMELY POWERFUL TOOL BUT WHY NO HELP |
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Author | Svein Erling Tysvær |
Post date | 2001-07-26T13:27:28Z |
Hi Ajit!
rather that it takes time to find their sophistication. You see something
in a sample, then try to do exactly the same yourself and find that it
doesn't work. Then you start digging until you find some properties you
never noticed was there.
excellent help files. Jason is great at components, but not equally great
at text. He manages to do a lot in one day, but still has to take some time
for his work, wife, children and he even sleeps a few nights a week!
Having said that, the IBO Getting Started Guide is really good (I think
Helen wrote that one) and I recommend it for everybody. I think it costs
$29.50.
Unless you use some components that require TDataset compatible components,
go for the native components (TIB_). They're a bit more tricky to learn,
but gives you greater control.
you can find some more information by examining the source files (if you
have that kind of license) or asking at this list. Trial and error is also
recommendable. But start writing code immediately. You'll be surprised how
many properties can be left at default value and how many components you
never need.
your local fire brigade about the safety, we're not qualified for answering
that question! Firebird on the other hand, is basically IB 6.0 where bugs
have been removed. It is not yet up to a standard where they want to call
it version 1.0, but it is pretty stable and we use it for our "production
environment" (we register all cancer in Norway in Firebird 0.9.5).
to go native (TIB_) and no support for Quantumgrid exists, you have a few
options:
1) Check out TIB_Grid
2) Take a look at Geoff Worboys enhanced components
3) Write components for QuantumGrid for the benefit of the entire community
don't think there is much learning material. Of course, you may find bits &
pieces at various internet sites - a good starting point could be
http://www.interbase2000.org/
rejected by us, than to be welcomed!
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>The examples are excellent but too premitivePrimitive? I haven't looked very closely on them, but my impression is
rather that it takes time to find their sophistication. You see something
in a sample, then try to do exactly the same yourself and find that it
doesn't work. Then you start digging until you find some properties you
never noticed was there.
>1.0 I believe any excellent tool/library should be equally supportedAgreed, but an excellent component writer doesn't neccessarily write
>by equally excellent help for developers like me who can quickly learn
>and start delivering. Where can I find such help for IBObjects?
excellent help files. Jason is great at components, but not equally great
at text. He manages to do a lot in one day, but still has to take some time
for his work, wife, children and he even sleeps a few nights a week!
Having said that, the IBO Getting Started Guide is really good (I think
Helen wrote that one) and I recommend it for everybody. I think it costs
$29.50.
>2.0 There are around 83 components in the library. Some of thefor
>components have dual functionality (IB_xxx components vs IBOxxx components
>data access Which components should I use)Moving from VB you presumably start writing new programs from scratch.
Unless you use some components that require TDataset compatible components,
go for the native components (TIB_). They're a bit more tricky to learn,
but gives you greater control.
>3.0 The examples hardly use 30% of components. What about help onIf you use 30% of the IBO components, I'd call you an expert user! I guess
>use of anather components
you can find some more information by examining the source files (if you
have that kind of license) or asking at this list. Trial and error is also
recommendable. But start writing code immediately. You'll be surprised how
many properties can be left at default value and how many components you
never need.
>I have some other questions for which I request your viewsIf you want to use fireworks in a production environment, you better ask
>1.Can fireworks be used for production environment development ? How
>much safe is it?
your local fire brigade about the safety, we're not qualified for answering
that question! Firebird on the other hand, is basically IB 6.0 where bugs
have been removed. It is not yet up to a standard where they want to call
it version 1.0, but it is pretty stable and we use it for our "production
environment" (we register all cancer in Norway in Firebird 0.9.5).
>2.How to write Business Objects with IBO? Are there some good examples?Don't know
>3.Does I need MIDAS to write client server based application for targetI don't think you need MIDAS, but others are more qualified to answer this.
>audiance of around 50 concurrent users ? Can I achieve without MIDAS
>4.I want to use Quantumgrid From devexpress for Grid presentation.I guess you can use it with the TIBO components, but not TIB_. If you want
>Can I use with IBO
to go native (TIB_) and no support for Quantumgrid exists, you have a few
options:
1) Check out TIB_Grid
2) Take a look at Geoff Worboys enhanced components
3) Write components for QuantumGrid for the benefit of the entire community
>I want to learn IBObjects and purchase license. But I need help CanExcepting the Getting Started Guide and the components and help files I
>I request that the learning material be made avalable on web as unless
>we learn, the technology can not propogate
don't think there is much learning material. Of course, you may find bits &
pieces at various internet sites - a good starting point could be
http://www.interbase2000.org/
>I wish to become part of IBO team and may be promote this in India.You're part of this community already - it's much more difficult to get
>I look forward for strong support from the community
rejected by us, than to be welcomed!
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