| Subject | Re: [firebird-support] Forced write, page size and buffer size |
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| Author | Carlos H. Cantu |
| Post date | 2014-08-19T16:30:38Z |
The best thing would be if someone could simulate some crashes (like power failure) in both configurations and report back about existence of corruption.
Carlos
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Carlos, I agree with you. The performance degradation was very high on an ext4 file system ( which has barrier enabled by default ). On the other hand, I found no noticiable performance degradation on an ext3 file system ( which has barrier disabled by default ). Having barrier disabled on a server with an ext3 file system, does FW=ON improve reliability or is it useless ? Aldo Caruso El 18/08/14 a las 16:27, 'Carlos H. Cantu' listas@... [firebird-support] escibió: Usually, if you turn FW = ON on Linux, and your filesystem has barrier enabled, it will affect performance of batch updates really badly. You would either accept the performance degradation, or disable one of them (FW or barrier). Carlos Firebird Performance in Detail - http://videos.firebirddevelopersday.com www.firebirdnews.org - www.FireBase.com.br ACacacfs> Hello, ACacacfs> For reliability reasons, I decided to turn on forced writes on a ACacacfs> database running on Linux. ACacacfs> After that I noticed that some massive updates ( 100K records ) took ACacacfs> nearly 5 minutes, whereas with async writes it used to take 10 seconds. ACacacfs> One solution is, of course, disabling sync writes when doing massive ACacacfs> updates. Unfortunately not always massive updates are under database ACacacfs> admin control ( some end users actions can lead to massive updates, ACacacfs> indirectly, by means of triggers ). ACacacfs> Another aproach I tested was augmenting page size from its default ACacacfs> value ( 4 KB ) to its maximum allowed value ( 16 KB ). The speed was ACacacfs> notably enhaced ( 1 minute for the update + 10 seconds for the commit, ACacacfs> but sometimes 2 seconds for the update and 40 seconds for the commit). ACacacfs> It should be pointed out that 4 KB was fine, taking into account ACacacfs> record size ( max. 300 bytes ) and index max depth ( always < 3 ). ACacacfs> Going one step further, I augmented cached pages from its default ( ACacacfs> 2048 ) to 8192. Some small performance improvement was observed, but not ACacacfs> very significative. It shoud be noted also that, with a 16 KB page size, ACacacfs> the database has 5700 pages on disk, so there are enough cache pages to ACacacfs> hold the entire database. ACacacfs> Given this scenario my questions are the following: ACacacfs> 1) Does it makes sense to activate forced writes on Linux ? ACacacfs> 2) Is increasing the page size the right approach to improve performance ACacacfs> ? Which are the drawbacks of setting page size to 16K ? ACacacfs> 3) The same question stands for cache pages: is it useful ( or has ACacacfs> disadvantages ) to have so many cache pages as there are on disk pages ( ACacacfs> provided there is enough RAM size ) ? ACacacfs> Thanks in advance for any clue. ACacacfs> Aldo ACacacfs> ------------------------------------ ACacacfs> ------------------------------------ ACacacfs> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ACacacfs> Visit http://www.firebirdsql.org and click the Documentation item ACacacfs> on the main (top) menu. Try FAQ and other links from the left-side menu there. ACacacfs> Also search the knowledgebases at ACacacfs> http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/ ACacacfs> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ACacacfs> ------------------------------------ ACacacfs> Yahoo Groups Links |