Carlos Arguilar wrote:

> Helen,
>
> I agree altogether with you. I only asked for a tip of my list friends.
> Perhaps someone knew a tool for free. It would be used for a project
> conversion of an institution without profit target. This organisation,
> unfortunately, cannot to pay for this job.
>
> P.S.: I know I am a lucky, furthermore we are, all of us! Isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Carlos Arguilar
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com]Em nome de Helen Borrie
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 1 de agosto de 2005 12:39
> Para: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: OFF-TOPIC Re: [firebird-support][Martijn] Oracle To Firebird
> again
>
>
> At 11:35 AM 1/08/2005 -0300, you wrote:
> >Firebird is for free. Based on
> >this, I thought it would can exist a tool for convert for free.
>
> Nothing is "free beer". You are lucky that you don't have to pay to use
> Firebird. You get that luck because skilled developers are working for
> nothing, or *other* people are donating their own money to help skilled
> developers to work on Firebird for pay, or employers are allowing their
> chaps to work on Firebird in company time -- a combination of these.
>
> Free software is software that anyone can develop if s/he wishes,
> within a
> set of rules, without being limited by copyright and patent
> restrictions. Free beer is beer that somebody pays for and then gives
> away.
>
> There are many third-party tools around the fringe of Firebird.
> Some are
> free. Many cost a little. Some cost a lot. Again, you are lucky -
> privileged - if you can pick up a free tool to do your particular job.
> Behind every bottle of free beer you get, there is somebody who paid for
> you to have it.
>
> I have been watching some postings in firebird-architect from a guy
> called
> Tim Haynes, who thinks everything he wants should be available NOW and
> FREE. He won't like Firebird until he can have free documentation, free
> tools, free this, free that.
>
> Even more, he thinks Firebird has its priorities wrong because he
> can't -
> here, now, today - download a Windows server that has all of these
> goodies
> right there in the installer kit. He rubbishes the Firebird developers
> for
> not putting their efforts into for-Dummies things like a fancy Windows
> console instead of the "irrelevant" (sic) things they ARE doing, like
> modernising the architecture, strengthening security and optimising
> performance. The pretty books, the beer and the lunch should
> rightly fall
> out of the sky, landing (preferably) on a part of the anatomy that can
> take
> the G's.
>
> ./heLen
>
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I especially appreciate the many valuable FB tips from those whose first
language is not English.
If this were a Portugese site, I'd find it very challenging.

Please continue to share your wisdom and knowledge.
Regards,
Sam Hunt