Hi Alex,

My software is shareware and unfortuantly there are still lots of poeple
out there sticking with Win 95, 98 and ME and if I can keep my
software running on this stuff without too much problem I will do so for
a little while longer. But I feel it coming this day very soon were I
will stop do so and spend my time in moving it onto things like Mac and
Linux.

Alexander Gräf wrote:

> I dont want to sound crazy, but why do you stick with that old crap (no rea=
> l security, bad filesystem, limited resources, bad network proto stack)? I =
> mean it's Windows 95 (now we have 2005). At least you could try using NT4. =
> That has fewer security issues, and is more stable, and also supports NTFS =
> (which can safe lives in case of power failure), and features some kind of =
> process isolation (which means it will avoid the whole computer crashing if=
> your app has a problem).
>
> Ok, I know, it is your client and you cant force him to use another OS, but=
> you can describe him those scary scenarios where the computer crashes and =
> the whole filesystem gets flushed down the toilet. If you secure the comput=
> er (i.e. firewall) and use it only as a database server, you can remove thi=
> s resource-hungry virus scanner (who needs it if there is no way to move a =
> file onto the computer?).
>

He knows it all better then any of us, it is that kind of a client and I
am not going to waste any more of my time on him.


See you
Werner

>
> Regards, Alex
>
>
>>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com=20
>>[mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von=20
>>Werner F. Bruhin
>>Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:32
>>An: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com
>>Betreff: Re: [firebird-support] Norton Antivirus 2005 on=20
>>Win98 prevents
>>=20
>>Just for the record.
>>=20
>>The problem turned out to be unrelated to Norton. It has to=20
>>do with the Windows 9x resource limitation for System and=20
>>User Resources. I only found this out by chance as I had=20
>>some other programs running on my
>>Win98 test machine when I run one of the tests to recreate=20
>>this users problem.
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>>My application is written in Python/wxPython and during the=20
>>start of the
>> application when the wx.Panels are created Windows 9x just=20
>>keeps on eating up resources. The error messages can be just=20
>>about anything, in one case it can't get the database file in=20
>>another it can't create a combobox etc etc.
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>>Only when I start the Microsoft Resource Meter=20
>>(Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools) did Windows give a=20
>>sensible warning message that system is running out of=20
>>resources and strangly enough in some cases running this tool=20
>>meant that the application actually started up and worked correctly!
>>=20
>>I haven't found a clean solution, the current work around is=20
>>to call the garbabe collection and display a progress dialog.=20
>> The dialog is needed to force Windows 98 to actually return=20
>>some unused resources. With this trick my test machine stays=20
>>between 50 and 70% free System/User resources.
>>=20
>>See you
>>Werner
>>=20
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>>Helen Borrie wrote:
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>>>At 02:52 PM 9/05/2005 +0200, you wrote:
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>>>>Hi Helen,
>>>>
>>>>Helen Borrie wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>Werner,
>>>>>
>>>>>At 12:31 PM 9/05/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a client who reports problems when running my application=20
>>>>>>together with Norton Antivirus 2005.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you sure it is Norton AV and not Norton Internet Security?
>>>>
>>>>Not sure, will check.
>>>> NIS is a
>>>>
>>>>>firewall and he will need to configure it to allow LAN access to=20
>>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>server
>>>>
>>>>>via TCP port 3050.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, forgot to mention that the application uses Firebird=20
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>>Embedded=20
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>>>>on the client. And the database connection string I pass to=20
>>>>kinterbasdb is
>>>>this:
>>>>self.ds =3D datasource(adapter=3D"firebird", database=3Dself.dbfilename=
>
> ,
>
>>>> user=3D"USER", password=3D"passwd",=20
>>>>charset=3D"ISO8859_1")
>>>>
>>>>self.dbfilename contains something along these lines:
>>>>C:\TheWineCellarBook\twcb.fdb
>>>>
>>>>I assumed that on this kind of setup there is no issue with=20
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>>TCP port 3050?
>>
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>>>No, there shouldn't be. Still, it will be a needle in a haystack=20
>>>until you find out which Norton product is stopping the=20
>>>connection/blocking the client library/locking the database=20
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>>directory/whatever.
>>
>>>=20
>>>You could try posting a question to firebird-python to see whether=20
>>>there is a known client issue with Win98 and any of the=20
>>
>>Norton utilities.
>>
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>>Resources item on=20
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