Subject Re: i need your opinion...
Author Adam
--- In firebird-support@yahoogroups.com, Ali Gökçen <alig@e...> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam, Alexandre,
> thank you very much for your help.
> I know how CS works, it doesnt help to my requirement,
> it has much more cost than my delay operation in details.
> we have no problem with CPU load. it is almost %60 in idle.
> The problem is on DISK I/O. especially if you have too much
> table, relations, indexes.
> in shortly bigger data, more than cachce resources.
>
> Let me give you my scenario,
> We are working for goverment hospitals.
> As you can guess they are(our users) officer and work only in rush
> ours.
> Patients receptions, actions and lab devices communication shouldn't
> go in a lag.
> Invoice,statistical and managament related services not so much time-
> critical.

For invoicing, could you not run the reports on the prior days backup
on a different machine? This approach can work well, it keeps the real
database server able to handle real time information better.


> it is not important if their reports or browsings fast or
> not so fast. Also they read nearly whole database to get a report.

Why for invoicing? Does it have any useful index to limit the range? I
would assume it would only need to look at the last X days on records.

> You know FB works on DISC file.

One possibility (note: untested / theoretical) depending on your
database size may be something I read about the other day (comment
posted in firebird-general). It is a little chip that allows you to
hook up some RAM into a SATA slot. To the OS, the slot looks like
another hard drive. The chip has an inbuilt battery to keep the RAM
running for a few hours if there is a power failure etc. So providing
your database can fit into an affordable amount of memory, it may be
an option. Of course you would need to test it before putting it into
production. Unlike normal RAM disks, it is not an OS level trick, so
if the OS goes wacky, you have not lost data, and the battery backup
is what really makes it worth considering. You can also put several
into a RAID. Gigabyte I-RAM, google it. Again, to reiterate, no-one
has responded to that thread in firebird-general yet, and I haven't
personally attempted it, but if it works then you know seek time in
RAM is 1000 times faster than disk.

> At CPU level OS makes a good time sharing for proccess/threads,
> so i thnk my spin counter doesn't effect other users so much.
> I made a plan to spread DISC I/O requests in time, with some
> conditions like, while ( not current_time between '08:00'
> and '17:00' do spin..
> You know select doesn't lock any recource in FB.
> So that, non-time-critical users will get slow respons and understand
> how heavy their task. At this time our FB works at maximum speed and
> they like to play with data results.
> That was all.


> Writing a UDF to force the thread to sleep was best idea.

Note: Anns comments regarding releasing of read lock. It is not the
best idea IMO, but if you are going to intentionally delay a thread,
it would be better to not waste resources in doing so.

Adam