Thomas von Stetten wrote:

> HI Artur,
>
>
>>How do you think that people that deploy Oracle or Microsoft SQL
>>applications do? Give a message to the user asking 'do you want me to
>>remove Oracle since I don't use it anymore?'
>
> That's one of the reasons I decided to use Interbase (and later Firebird).
> It's easier to deploy - I thought. If I had the chance I would switch to a
> desktop database. Most of my problems/error come from the fb-server
> installation/concurrency with other installations.

If everyone follow the rules for client/server deployment, you shouldn't
have any problems deploying your application: just ask for the sysdba
password and you're ready to go.

That's what we get from easier deployment: people using Firebird as if
it was is own server.

But we should follow the rules, that could be as simple as:

1) Install the server if there is no server; change SYSDBA password at
install time and give that info to the user;
2) Use the server if there is one - ask for SYSDBA password.

For removing:

1) Remove your application;
2) Ask the user if he want's to remove the server part.

This way, we make live simpler as well for another applications.

We have a bad story with applications that 'register' the server and the
dtabases. Remember IBConsole? There's a lot of people that still asks on
support list how to register the server to be used by there own apps.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a global registy key for
applications to register. This will fail, soon or latter. And could also
compromise security.

> As I explaned/showed before the main problems are the non-dedicated servers.

Let it be. Firebird is so small that it will not hurt any hard disk space.

> We are talking about small - very small - companies. They don't have
> it-professionals. And they are real dummies regarding to computers. They do
> not know what a server is. So I can't expect them to know about a DB-Server!

People like this are used to have a lot of software installed in there
computer. I doubt if they will remove yours, just stop using it. :-)

> My competitors also don't. The other problem is that the other applications
> don't tell them that they use a DB-Server they simply install
> Firebird/Interbase - that's it. So how can they know that/if they use a
> firebird-server or not.

That's no example to follow. Bad applications are all over the place.
Our goal is to avoid situations like this. It's one more point for you
against competition: you let the user know what they have. :-)

Artur