Subject RE: [ib-support] Re: Maximum Capacity
Author Alan McDonald
To reliably host a database of a size to which all these references are
pushing.. i.e. >250Gb, one would need to invest very heavily in the "right"
hardware.

I suspect that once this limit is passed and a very heavy investment has
been committed, it would be hard to turn around and tell the CEO that "we're
just going to put a free, open source database server on it".

I think this would be a very real functional limitation.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Listeny [mailto:listen@...]
Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2003 6:48 PM
To: ib-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ib-support] Re: Maximum Capacity


Hi, ALL.

I read all posts and those were very interesting.
I know the theoretical limits.

My secondary interest is 'How many GIGA bytes are FB's functional limits?'
"When he/she estimates the size of data area as X GB, he/she selects
'ORACLE',
not 'FireBird'."
I want to know X. Probably, X is not a fixed value. Scheme and Index
setting
are more important. X may be not a numerical value.

What is the most important point, to determine 'I should select other DBMS
which is not Firebird'.

It is difficult to answer of this...
But, Someone has result to handle 20..40GB size under FB. It's enough for
me.

Thanks.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:15:06 -0000
"Frank Emser <frankemser@...>" <frankemser@...> wrote:

> --- In ib-support@yahoogroups.com, Marco BommeljŃâ╗<mbommelj@x>
wrote:
> > Read this list carefully. The topic is discussed frequently.
> Looks like a good idea to put this question (or even better: the
> answer) into an easily reachable faq.
> At least I did not find such one.
>
> > Yesterday, Sean Leyne mentioned in one of his postings that the
> > (current) theoretical limit is 32TB.
> Well, to be precise:
> He only said that he *believes* the (current) theoretical limit is
> 32 TB.
> This is exactly the amount mentioned in the IB6 techspecs quoted
> at
> http://firebird.sourceforge.net/index.php?op=guide&id=ib6_techspec.
> But then, this was before the 64-bit version of firebird.
>
> It would be a nice if anyone could provide some *reliable*
> information about the actual firebird limits.
> I just intended to send a note to the author of a comparison of
> several open-source-databases (mysql, postgresql, firebird, sap db)
> which was just recently published in a German computer magazine (c't
> 5/2003, p.142).
> He stated
> => a. that firebird can handle 2^64 colums per table
> (this simply makes no sense if the maximum row size is still 64
> Kbytes as with IB6)
>
> => b. that firebird can handle 16 columns / index
> (if the 256-bytes limit still applies, then these 16 columns might
> be too much as well as too few ... depending of the (size of) the
> datatypes of the columns.
>
> => c. that the maximum database size with firebird is "only" 980
> GBytes
> I consider a *real* existing database of 980 GBytes to be huge (
> especially compared for example to the maximum "real" size of about
> 60 GB
> for Postgresql-databases (http://www.postgresql.org/users-
> lounge/limitations.html))
>
> but compared to the theoretical limits given for the other databases
> (SAP DB: 32 TByte, Postgresql: 64 TByte and MySQL's: "unlimited")
> this 980 GB-limit just sounds like a child's toy.
>
> I just intended to reply to him that Firebird maximum database size
> calculates as the maximum number of files per database times the
> maximum file size.
> According to the Firebird 1.0 release notes, p.5&6, this would mean
> for Windows NT a maximum of about 2040 files per database times
> a maximum of about 16384 GBytes per file and therefore result in
> about 32000 TBytes per database; => a quite impressive number !
> (Well, to be true, not quite as impressive as MySQL's "unlimited",
> but "good enough" anyway ? ).
>
> Now I read that you assume Firebirds theoretical limit to be about
> a factor of thousand below that so I am quite lucky that I have not
> yet mentioned my numbers.
>
> Any idea what went wrong with my calculation or what else is the
> reason for this theoretical limit of 32 TB (if it really still
> exists with 64-bit-firebird) ?
>
> => d. that firebird's maximum table size is only limited by the
> database size.
> Of course, this statement of that author sounds good.
> But is it really valid ?
> In case the maximum database indeed goes to the thousands of
> terabytes, the maximum number of rows (if this is still 2^32 like in
> IB6) would quite probably become very fast the limiting factor for a
> maximum table size (for example when inserting small samples of
> measuring data every few milliseconds)
>
> By the way, just in case that someone of you really happen to read
> this twice: I have posted a very similar reply in the max-table-size
> thread but even after many hours, it has not yet appeared there , so
> I assume that it got lost.
>
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