Subject RE: [ib-support] InterBase BDE 5.2 SQL Links Update WARNING!!!
Author Thomas Steinmaurer
Thanks David!

I'm very happy to say that I get rid of the BDE a few months ago :-))

Thomas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: news@... [mailto:news@...]On Behalf Of David
> R. Robinson
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:45 PM
> To: ib-support@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ib-support] InterBase BDE 5.2 SQL Links Update WARNING!!!
>
>
> FYI, I posted this on the Borland newsgroups, but thought I'd post it
> here so everyone is aware of it.
>
> David R.
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>
> If you use the BDE for database access for an InterBase 5.x database,
> you need to be aware of the following problems introduced in the new BDE
> SQL Links DLL that ships with Delphi 6:
>
> Problem #1.) "Translate error. Value out of bounds". This occurs if
> you are using IB 5.x client & server.
>
> Problem #2.) "General SQL error. Unable to complete network request to
> host 'servername'. Error writing date to the connection. An existing
> connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.". This occurs if you
> are using IB 6.x client & IB 5.x server.
>
> If you use InterBase 5.x server, there is only one Date field type
> (DATE). It stores both the date and time. If you want to retrieve data
> for a specific date (ignoring the time portion of the field) in a
> parameterized query, you would probably use AsDate. You might have code
> that looks like this:
> Query1.ParamByName('DATEWORKED').AsDate := DateTimePicker1.DateTime;
> If you use AsDate, you will get one of the above mentioned errors if you
> use the new BDE SQL Links DLL that shipped with Delphi 6.
>
> If you install the new BDE SQL Links DLL and are using InterBase *5.x*
> client and InterBase 5.x server, you will get the following error:
> "Translate error. Value out of bounds".
>
> If you install the new BDE SQL Links DLL and while you are at it, happen
> to install the InterBase *6* client (which someone would probably do if
> they installed Delphi 6), you potentially have a serious problem if you
> have an InterBase 5.x server. The user that updated their BDE and IB
> client will see the following error: "General SQL error. Unable to
> complete network request to host 'servername'. Error writing date to
> the connection. An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote
> host.". When you get this error, you have lost your database connection
> and will most likely have to kill the executable to shut it down. Ok,
> so one user gets an error, no big deal. But that isn't the case. The
> next time any user that was connected to any database on that server
> tries to access the database, they will get the same error as well. Yes,
> ALL USERS CONNECTED TO ALL DATABASES ON THAT IB 5.x SERVER WILL GET THE
> SAME ERROR AND BE DISCONNECTED FROM THE DATABASE.
>
> I know of two people in addition to myself that have code that does
> exactly this same thing, so I have a feeling it is a common practice
> when using InterBase and the BDE. Both of these problems have been
> reported to Borland.
>
> Borland's so called "solution" is the first one is to use AsDateTime.
> AsDateTime returns the time portion and can give inaccurate query
> results due to the various values of the time portion of the field
> (that's why we are using AsDate to begin with). So, IMHO, that isn't a
> solution. Even if it was, the result requires that you update your
> program because of Borland's bug.
>
> Borland's response to the second (and more serious problem) is that
> InterBase does not support mismatched client and server versions, so
> they aren't going to do anything to address it.
>
> In my case, how am I going to prevent the 8,000 InterBase 5.x users that
> we have deployed from having one user somewhere update the BDE. Answer:
> I won't be able to. Since IB 6 is now out and there are many other
> applications using IB 6, there is a good chance that someone will update
> both the BDE and IB client and will have all users get disconnected from
> the database.
>
> What's worse is that this isn't even really an InterBase problem, it's a
> BDE problem. IMHO, the BDE team needs to update the BDE SQL Links DLL
> for InterBase to resolve this problem. At this point, I see no
> indication that Borland is the least bit interested in doing this, so I
> decided I'd at least post this message so everyone is familiar with the
> problem.
>
> I haven't had time to test with IB 6, so I'm not sure if this is a
> problem with IB 6/Dialect 1 or not.
>
> David R. Robinson
> Director of Development
> Sage U.S. Holdings, Inc.
>
> InterBase Installation Info - http://ibinstall.defined.net
>
> P.S. I have a sample Delphi project and small database that can be
> easily used to reproduce the problem if anyone is interested.
>
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