> you've got me baffled Myles.... what the hell (the website is so broken I
> can't make it tell me) does codeigniter do? I can understand the need for

a

> database class to make working with websites and your favourite scripting
> language a little easier but PHP does all the right stuff out of the box.

I

> just can't see how this stuff can make your work faster or easier....
> please please enlighten me - I'm too dumb to see the woods for the

trees...

> Alan
> (PS - it's like some of the CMS fraweworks around... they mature a little
> and in so doing they become their own worst enemy as far as just getting a
> simple job done in the best time.)

CI is a full framework for doing MVC style applications. You probably could
build large scale PHP apps without a framework, but I've found it incredibly
useful. Things like ensuring that all URLS are search engine friendly,
handling the controller classes properly, integrating with Smarty, etc. are
all no-brainers with a framework like this. Sure, I could write all of that
stuff myself, but why?

As for simple jobs, sure you probably don't need it. But I don't end up
building simple PHP apps these days. Clients are requesting application
replacements for full scale client/server apps on the web from us, so a
framework is somewhat mandatory.

Not sure what problems you are seeing with their web site, but it works fine
for me.

Regards,
Myles

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Myles Wakeham
Director of Engineering
Tech Solutions US, Inc.
Phone (480) 451-7440
www.techsol.org