On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Roman Rokytskyy wrote:

>> Do you know if there anything I need to "turn it on" when using
>> Hibernate?
>> The HibernateTransactionManager doesn't seem to support it, but
>> Hibernate
>> site says it is dependent on the underlying JDBC driver?
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> After short googling I found Javadoc for
> HibernateTransactionManager in
> Spring Framework:
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> "On JDBC 3.0, this transaction manager supports nested transactions
> via JDBC
> 3.0 Savepoints. The "nestedTransactionAllowed" flag defaults to
> "false",
> though, as nested transactions will just apply to the JDBC
> Connection, not
> to the Hibernate Session and its cached objects."
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> ... though I could not find anything about savepoints in Hibernate
> (neither
> Google nor in source code of Hibernate 3.0)... Are you sure that this
> feature is supported by Hibernate?

I don't wish to say bad things about Hibernate or Spring but after
looking at some Spring code I think it is possible that one or both
of these projects have confused nested transactions (often
implemented with and pretty much equivalent to savepoints) with xa
suspend/resume behavior used in e.g. ejb RequiresNew CMT policy. Of
course these are not in any way equivalent. Hopefully I have
misunderstood the Spring code I was looking at.

thanks
david jencks

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> And sure, you can emulate it by accessing the connection object and
> using
> JDBC there, but in this case you might have problems anyway - it
> requires
> that before you set savepoint you have to flush everything to
> database. Then
> if you rollback, you have to expunge everything from the
> Hibernate's cache
> to force it to load data from the disk.
>
> Roman
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