Subject | Re: [IB-Java] As a Start |
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Author | Helen Borrie |
Post date | 2000-07-30T04:40:14Z |
Hi All,
Just a note of caution here...
I'm sure that Shaunak is "just following orders" and is not in any way part
of the war that Dale Fuller has declared on the InterBase developer
community. Inprise has already broken the basic rules of Open Source in
withholding key pieces. At the moment, there is NO indication that Inprise
intends to fully open the IB product. Please take care to get a published
guarantee that any work you upload to the Inprise tree will be "open" in
the fully open-source sense; and to carefully comment every fragment of
your own code so it is clear that YOU are the copyright owner. Keep your
own exact, timestamped archive copies of everything you upload to their
tree. Make sure you post to this list **whenever** you give anything to
Inprise.
Inprise is using its lawyers to try and crush the endeavours of the
community, knowing that we don't have the financial resources to defend
ourselves. Rather than play this game, we must just make certain that we
protect ourselves as individuals and open source InterBase as a whole. If
we leave loopholes, Keith Gottfried will find them.
Shaunak, I really hate what they are doing to us and to you. We don't
blame you. You are being used just as we are. It is worse for you - you
have to keep your job. At least we have the option to withdraw. Let's
hope for a miracle, that Dale Fuller gets past his greed and personal
vendettas and makes good his promises to the Open Source community before
too much damage is done to InterBase and the Borland developer base.
Regards,
Helen
At 08:21 PM 29-07-00 -0700, you wrote:
Just a note of caution here...
I'm sure that Shaunak is "just following orders" and is not in any way part
of the war that Dale Fuller has declared on the InterBase developer
community. Inprise has already broken the basic rules of Open Source in
withholding key pieces. At the moment, there is NO indication that Inprise
intends to fully open the IB product. Please take care to get a published
guarantee that any work you upload to the Inprise tree will be "open" in
the fully open-source sense; and to carefully comment every fragment of
your own code so it is clear that YOU are the copyright owner. Keep your
own exact, timestamped archive copies of everything you upload to their
tree. Make sure you post to this list **whenever** you give anything to
Inprise.
Inprise is using its lawyers to try and crush the endeavours of the
community, knowing that we don't have the financial resources to defend
ourselves. Rather than play this game, we must just make certain that we
protect ourselves as individuals and open source InterBase as a whole. If
we leave loopholes, Keith Gottfried will find them.
Shaunak, I really hate what they are doing to us and to you. We don't
blame you. You are being used just as we are. It is worse for you - you
have to keep your job. At least we have the option to withdraw. Let's
hope for a miracle, that Dale Fuller gets past his greed and personal
vendettas and makes good his promises to the Open Source community before
too much damage is done to InterBase and the Borland developer base.
Regards,
Helen
At 08:21 PM 29-07-00 -0700, you wrote:
>Torsten Welches wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I guess these are bad days to start thinking about the "real work"
> instead of all the politics that is going on around InterBase. As a
> newcomer to the IB community I admit that I don't fully understand what
> is actually happening. At any rate it's repulsive.
> >
> > Back to the task at hand I would like to learn if the already released
> InterClient/InterServer sources are complete or if there is anything left
> (unit tests and so on) that is not yet open-sourced. I heard that
> something is missing but I don't know if this applies to InterClient as well.
>
>You should not be missing anything as far as building the product and
>CommDiag etc. are concerned.
>The unit test have not been open sourced.
>If you find that there is something missing due to which you cannot
>build please let us know here.
>
> > Since IB-Java now has two members that apparently are Inprise
> engineers, Shaunak Mistry and Mr/Mrs Sriram (?), could one of you
> possibly provide this information? Furthermore:
> > who of the current InterBase R&D is responsible for
> InterClient/InterServer now? I heard that Paul Ostler left the company.
>
>Paul has not been with InterBase/Inprise for a while, however we (the
>current members of InterBase R&D team) amongst us have been working on
>the 2 kits just released and will keep our eyes out for any concerns you
>might have out here in this group.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Torsten Welches
>Shaunak Mistry.
>
>
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