Paul, Claudio,

Why? Don't you have access to an email client? You simply reply to the list.

Okay yes and to prove it here I am replying by email! The problem is that I tend to delete emails once I have read them, so to look at old messages I have to go to the archive. Granted I could set up a folder and download everything to there but I would then have to do that on all the devices that I use.

I am interested to hear that some people like to download and browse messages offline and I remember about 10 years ago I did that a lot too. But these days I find myself online pretty much all the time (except on long flights when I could buy Helen's book for my Kindle).

This is not an ad, I don't work for any of these companies. Just look at the
bottom of these main pages:
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/forum.php
http://www.diyaudio.com/
http://audiokarma.org/

All of them are powered by the original vBulletin or a customization
provided by a third party. I searched and the company making it is alive.
They even can host the bulletin in their facilities for 180 dollars a year.

Yes lovely, I would be happy to contribute $18 / year if there are 9 others prepared to do the same :)

If we do it, let's a) first make sure it's really an improvement and b) do it right, that is, with the project's weight behind it. Let's not have mailing lists *and* forums *and* God knows what else so the useful information is scattered all over the place. People should know where to go for Firebird support and find the helping hands concentrated there.

That's true and wxWidgets does suffer from that a bit with both an 'official' users mailing list and the forum I mentioned. Luckily their mailing list is hosted on Google groups and the archive is threaded and easy to search (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wx-users). However in a sense it does show that having both is not a complete disaster.

> The other thing that I think would get more users excited is
> something like MySQL Workbench. I know we have FlameRobin but
> IMHO is Workbench significantly better (sorry).

Thinking about this I was a bit unfair. FR works very well, I know this is the wrong place but Milan if you read this list the main change I would like to see is a tabbed interface rather than lots of little windows that I keep losing! I think an eye candy graphical server monitor would grab attention (and help raise the FB profile). Also I have written a GUI trace monitor which works but is very messy at the moment. I would be happy to contribute to it to FR though.

On the bright side I think this discussion shows there is still some passion about FB!

Mike