marius adrian popa wrote:

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Geoff Worboys
> <geoff@...> wrote:
>
>> m. Th. wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps you already know, the Borland is no more, while
>>> Embarcadero's Delphi is going strong. Oh, well... A take
>>> from restless DavidI:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.embarcadero.com/davidi/2009/05/06/39621
>>>
>> Thanks for that.
>>
>> I must say that I find Zeichick's comment:
>> "Borland is gone, and good riddance. Ted Bahr is right: Few
>> should mourn its passing."
>> unfair and showing a remarkable lack of memory.
>>
>> Certainly these last - hmmm... it's getting embarrasing to
>> count them - years have been ones for which it has been very
>> difficult to hold any affection for Borland, but that is not
>> the same has not having anything to mourn.
>>
>> (Assuming this buy-out goes through) I think it is the time to
>> mourn the final passing, after a long lingering illness, of a
>> company that made a huge difference to many of us. The Turbo
>> products (the original ones, not the recent new-Coke versions),
>> OWL and other early forays into OO, and of course their
>> culmination in Delphi and C++Builder.
>>
>> The final passing is a time to remember the positive things,
>> not to re-open old wounds.
>>
> We all remember the good things even these days
>

> <snip>
>

> Their focus lately was ALM , i don't know what that fuzzy term is but
> is not compilers or
> ide , rad ... or good old tools we know
> Ahh and they still ignored firebird forever it's like we are black
> sheeps or something ....

Yes, I share(d) the same feelings with you. But it seems that the new
team is much more closer to community. Ok, not so close as it should,
but anyway a giant step forward. In their vision now, the 'strong
points' aren't ALM, UML (aso.) anymore, even if these therms aren't bad
by itself, but now they focus on: 'Language Spec', 'IDE', 'RTL',
'Database Access'. They somewhat avoid working too much on VCL now
because VCL is an area which can be covered by 3rd parties.

About Firebird: 'forever'? Are you sure? :-)

There are many rumors that Weaver (the code name of the next RAD Studio
which normally will be released this year) will have a Firebird DBX
driver. If you want, AFAIK, you can register for Weaver Beta at
beta.embarcadero.com and see/ask for yourself. Most probably there must
be a form of communication with the team (eMail, forums - something
similar) where you can ask.

As an aside, after the Embarcadero acquisition, they are very focused in
tooling the interaction between code and databases. Let's hope that
something good will appear.


About 'the black sheep': :-)

Better a black sheep than an escape goat, isn't? :-) The sheep has a
crucial virtue: humbleness (SMERENIE).


HTH,

m. Th.


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