At 11:41 PM 6/11/2009, you wrote:

>>> There was a fund-raising but there was never a project. A "project"
>>> however would be MUCH more than someone who is willing to do beautiful
>>> art work. The funds are still there, so if anybody wants to make The
>>> New Firebird Website, please contact Helen Borrie and sort out the
>>> details.
>
>> Helen is only holding the money for us.
>
>Isn't that a reason to contact her? ;-)

Nope. It is NOT my project and I didn't step up for it. I have more than enough things to do now.

The money belongs to the group of people listed at the url I sent here yesterday. It's up to the initiator to get hold of something that can be shown to those people (by a message to FFMembers, I would suggest, since you will catch all of them there). They are the ones who wanted change enough to fork out money for it.

>As long as everybody is complaining about the website and nobody is
>stepping up to create a new one, nothing will happen.

Design is one thing. Content is another. Talk is cheap. You people who want this to happen need to get over to the firebird-website list and sort yourselves out into a team with some goals and tasks that you're actually prepared to deliver on. ;-)

Helen