Subject Re: [Firebird-general] Re: Make a wiki and centralize all info about firebird there
Author Doug Chamberlin
woodsmailbox wrote:
>> Ah, so you expect other people to pick up your idea
>> and do the work?
> So please expand, cuz I fail to see any logic in the question.

I'll try to explain what I think was behind that comment.

To summarize the situation: You have an idea that you believe in. You
have proposed it to this community. That started a conversation. Several
people have made comments in that conversation that indicate why they do
not think your idea will be easy to accomplish, what it would take for
it to be successful, why they have doubts about it, etc. In general,
criticized the idea.

You have persisted (which is generally a good thing) but no one has
announced that they also believe in your idea enough to commit their
resources to it. You have continued to persist and mention that others
will be needed to accomplish your goal. (I think you are correct about

I think what the community has expressed is a skepticism of the overall
value of the idea. You just haven't convinced us yet and several people
have explained why they are not convinced. You have not adequately
addressed the concerns that have been expressed.

What you have done is made it sound like as soon as a wiki is created as
the central point of contact for all things Firebird that it will
somehow blossom into a wonderful resource that is much better than what
we now have. I think we, collectively, are invested elsewhere and know
that this result will take much more work that that.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that we do not know what a wiki is or
what value it has or how it works. We do. But from what I've read we
don't think it is all that wonderful as a solution to the problems the
Firebird project has.

This conversation has correctly identified many of those problems. You
have proposed a new idea that will help with *some* of them.

Now, (to finally get to the question at hand) if you really believe in
this idea you need to do whatever it takes to convince the community.
That includes stepping forward and volunteering to create the wiki and
keep it running.

You also need to do the political work to get others to contribute to
it. I don't think anyone else is going to join you in this effort until
they are convinced of the benefit and until they see you are actually
going somewhere with this. In other words, just proposing the idea is
not nearly enough to get it done.

Does that help you understand the comment?

P.S. I just saw your follow-up message and I'm glad you recognize what
you said came across as a bit naive. Maybe I don't need to say all the
above after all, but I'm going to post it anyway.