> The longer they delay, the worse it gets for our Firebird brand
> identity. It's still all over the place in the mozilla.org website and in
> a list of other places.

Is it? Mozilla.org still has everthing under Phoenix and
there is not a single [TM] on the few uses of Firebird I
found - which were not links to mozillazine pages.
The nightly build is still phoenix, and I suspect that
Mozilla has not rushed to change that because they don't now
need to waste the time - since the code is not planned to go
out as a public release. But now I've said that ...

> Nothing has filtered through to their community.
> See here:
> http://www.mozillazine.org/forums/index.php?c=4

That still seems to be the main problem, and something that
MOZILLA need to get under control. As I said - the Pheonix
group are still looking to an independent product and
pushing that impression. Mozilla have already moved passed
that, but are not getting the renegades under control. So
even if there is an agreement with Mozilla, I can still see
Mozillazine doing what the hell it wants to anyway.

I'm glad we don't have that sort of problem with Firebird
developers <g>

If anybody at Mozilla.org is still listening - please police
your supporters. I've been asked not to post on mozillazine
- so I'll respect that request - even if it was not
'official' <bg>

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