Subject Re: Re: About IBX and Firebird (and a Jason rant on "free beer" again)
Author Dominique Louis
Hi Jason,
I have quite a bit of respect for your technical achievements with
the IBO components, and I was not going to reply to this email, but
since you have brought the US/Bush political agenda into this forum I
have no choice but to answer...

On second thoughts, rather than get into a massive ( and I do mean
massive ) political argument over the US's wielding of political power,
I will email you directly. That way at least I will have time to calm
down :).

In future can I suggest that ALL political views be kept out of this
forum as this will just make the IBDI mailing list a less useful place
for the IB/FB community.



"Jason Wharton" <jwharton@...> wrote:

> <rant>
> This whole "free beer" software trend just may teach us a sad lesson, you
> generally get what you pay for. Fortunately, things continue to go quite
> well for IBO and Trustware, but I am determined to apply influence where I
> see necessary to ensure the continued health of my profession and current
> livelihood. I don't settle for anything that is half-baked or cheesy and it
> shows. I also don't feel to settle for anything less than a just
> compensation for my efforts that benefit others monetarily. If you have a
> problem with that, it certainly is a problem. Yours, not mine.
> Then again, I could just be a fat pig spoiled American brat who resents
> seeing the rug pulled out from under his party... <g>
> That's why I chose the Trustware concept so privileges would go to all
> regardless of economic standing. I don't want to be a brat. I want to see
> everyone raised to a higher standard of living, not have the whole software
> economy and industry cave in on itself. When the day comes that farmers,
> builders, teachers, doctors, distributors and resellers of life's essentials
> are willing to provide, by their own free will and choice, my life's
> essential needs (none of this vain opulence crap America is so hung up on)
> then I will be overjoyed to provide benefits to their lives by my own
> talents by my own free will and choice.
> My biggest complaint with current OSI trends like GPL. etc. is the
> infringements on free will and choice in the usage and integration of the
> products. They are designed to ultimately take choice away from people in
> the long haul. This is with regard to the virulent, rather than trusting,
> nature of its clauses. This supposed utopian model will quickly degenerate
> into despotism if it isn't upheld in full cooperation by the free will and
> choice of its recipients. It's kind of like communism. Good ideals but
> enforced rather than willingly espoused and respected. It kills the
> lifeblood of the human soul to force them to be a certain way no matter how
> wonderful the ideals being enforced are. I see some sad parallels developing
> in the industry and I don't like it. I think it is degrading to the inherent
> goodness of the human soul.
> Anyway, enough of my ranting. Perhaps our industry is just a little ahead of
> its time and the others will eventually catch up. We'll see.
> Just some food for thought here... I don't necessarily have a conspiracy
> theory about how America's economy is being weakened by the radicals trying
> to get every smart little cookie on the planet slaving over "free beer" OS
> project A, B, C and D. But, then again, how many of these big name OSI
> proponents are still in the trenches doing software development? Some I'm
> sure, but I think we should use some caution and keep our eye on the big
> picture. What really is their motivation? I'd like to see America stay a
> strong nation in all respects, including its software industry. (Not
> excusing butt-heads who think opulence almost beyond human imagination is
> their right when people the world over are in great need. I need not mention
> any names.)
> I think to a large measure America has done good with its position of global
> power and I would not like to see the scene this world would cast if America
> were to fall down in the dumps and lose its power. Should it eventually
> crumble the power vacuum would be enormous and very disabling to the world,
> I think. What I wish is that the people of America weren't so gluttonous...
> Unfortunately the crooks are rising in might and the solid honest in heart
> wo/men who primarily founded and built this nation are being swept under the
> rug... "Hurry, hurry off to the casinos... with smiles painted on (obviously
> fake)." is now the mainstream ploy it seems. The freeways are littered with
> their billboards. Bullcrap, bullcrap, bullcrap! Wake up America!!! There is
> no such thing as unearned happiness that lasts.
> This is partly the answer to some of the other threads on this list
> regarding free software and the like...
> </rant>
> Jason Wharton
> CPS - Mesa AZ
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:55:21 -0700
> From: "Jason Wharton" <jwharton@...>
> Subject: Re: A new dawn
>>Could we now all cheer up again, please?
> Your request was a tad too late for me.
> I sent my rant prior to seeing your request....
> It's likely to intrigue some and infuriate others.
> But, I really think they are issues facing our industry in general. Take
> them for what they are and anyone out there who wants to vent on me for it
> I'll gladly receive your replies privately and sincerely consider them. It
> is probably best we do let things settle down. I'll shift into that mode...
> Regards,
> Jason Wharton
> CPS - Mesa AZ
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