IMO a good compromise would be:
1) Marathon for sophisticated-GUI console;
2) Java Servlet for portable and easy to install console.

Reasons:
1) There is a lot of Delphi know how among FB users and improving on
Marathon would take MUCH LESS effort than building a portable GUI
from scratch. Besides:
- Most developers still use a Windows workstation, even if only
as a 2nd workstation;
- Delphi is getting a bit more portable.
=:o)


2) With a Web interface you only have to do one installation to
benefit any FB developer on your network, but you can install it
on an isolated development computer to.

A proof on how a simple Web based database admin console can be
useful and _very_ popular is phpMyAdmin, implemented in PHP to
manage mySQL databases.
http://www.phpmyadmin.net/

Installing Java and Tomcat on Linux, Windows or Mac is trivial.
And you can also install them on a Novel server and on several
other environments.

Just porting phpMyAdmin to Firebird is another alternative. A
port to PostgreSQL already exists.
http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net/
In my experience, installing Apache+PHP is trivial enough in
both Linux and Windows (although not as easy as just Tomcat).


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Pepers [mailto:brad@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:39 PM
> To: IBDI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [IBDI] Re: New Name for IBConsole fork...
>
>
> On Monday 15 April 2002 07:37, Paul Schmidt wrote:
> > On 14 Apr 2002 at 0:21, mmenaz wrote:
> > > I would prefer having community support Marathon open source project
> > > instead. http://www.alanti.net/firebird/marathon/ Don't waste efforts
> > > in 34 half working projects, please. Marathon could be "our" powerful
> > > tool, the Firebird programmer first choice. Thanks Marco Menardi
> >
> > I agree, we need to pick one or two projects, and concentrate
> our efforts
> > into getting those projects working 100%, with the features in them that
> > people want.
>
> The problem with most of the tools available right now is that
> they are all
> very Windows specific which is a pain for a database which is
> available for
> more than just Windows. The cross platform options available are:
>
> 1. Java. I still find this very slow going and its often not
> installed on
> Linux systems (and likely most other Unix systems) so it makes it
> a pain to
> get Java based tools running. Largest range of platform though.
>
> 2. Kylix. I'm not sure if this is available for other Unix systems like
> FreeBSD and I'm not sure if its available for the Mac. Also its
> not a common
> programming language on any Unix/Linux system so you won't find a lot of
> Linux programmers that know Kylix. But the Windows programmers
> would likely
> be more at home with this.
>
> 3. Qt. This is available for pretty much any Unix system and
> also Windows
> and Mac. There is a free version but I'm not sure what
> limitations it has.
> >From what I understand the free version is available for Linux
> and Windows
> and you can create free software with it but I don't think there
> is a free
> Mac version.
>
> 4. Others? There are other gui toolkits available like wxWindows
> but I don't
> have much experience with them to comment on what platforms they
> work on or
> how complete they are.
>
> --
> Brad Pepers
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