Hi,

Another group for the list.
This one is from Brazil and instead of others brazilians IBGroups, I think
this is the one with a substancial number of messages.

http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/interbase-br/
1012 members, 1740 messages in January


Regards,


Leonardo Mozachi Neto

----- Original Message -----
From: Claudio Valderrama C. <cvalde@...>
To: <ibdi@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <ib-support@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 5:27 AM
Subject: [IBDI] The sore state of our lists


> At this time, I'm isolated from ib-support because the NG is unreachable
as
> warned by Sean. I'm sending a CC to ib-support but please reply to IBDI if
> you have something to say. I've adjusted the reply-to pointing to IBDI
list
> in trying to be proactive. I've been doing a painful search in yahoo by
hand
> (isn't that any fool there can build a decent search engine for the
groups?)
> and found the following groups:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Priorities/
> 284 members, 2 messages in Jan 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Architect/
> 521 members, 59 messages in this year.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Marketing/
> 85 members, one message in Jun-2001, another in Aug-2001 and a third one
in
> Oct-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Italy/
> 11 members, 3 msgs in May-2001, 1 msg in Jun-2001 and 2 msg in Jul-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Conversions/
> 246 members, 25 messages in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-PT/
> 6 members, 1 msg in 2000, no msg in 2001 and one msg in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB_DESIGNER/
> 151 members, 311 msgs in 2000, 5 msgs in 2001, no msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-LinuxTools/
> 45 members, 47 messages in 2000, 7 msgs in Mar-2001, 2 msgs Jul-2001, 1
msg
> Aug-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ib-germany/
> ONE member! Never a message.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IB-Java/
> 294 members, 160 msgs in 2000, 532 msgs in 2001, 202 msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ib-support/
> 863 members, 171 msgs in 2000, 6907 msgs in 2001, 2058 msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FBIBOTR/
> 13 members, 49 msgs in 2001, 79 msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iblogmanager/
> 29 members, 11 msgs in 2000, 38 msgs in 2001, 2 msgs in Jan-2002.
>
> I think this group has nothing to do with us. :-)
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndecentBehavior/ => IB
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FBproject/
> But it doesn't use IB or FB, only MsSql and MySql. :-(
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/interbase_brasil/
> 123 members, 582 msgs in 2000, 350 msgs in 2001, 45 msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/interbase/
> 6 members, no messages, but I'm not sure about this:
> Post message: interbase@...
> The IB list at emporia is rather old and probably there's some form of
> linking, but what's the idea if nothing is visible at Yahoo?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/id-interbase/
> 10 members, 21 msgs in 2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/interbase-de/
> 70 members, 7 msgs in Dec-2000, 1 msg in Jan-2001, 8 msgs in Feb-2001 and
> one msg in Jun-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exib/
> 40 members, 60 msgs in 2001, 18 msgs in 2002.
> This list in intriguing, by reading the charter: «A discussion group for
> ex-InterBase staff members, mostly people who worked there in the 1990s
> (some still continue to be there)».
> Hmm, can all those dinousaurs whose names we read in the sources be found
> there?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBO-Announcements/
> 812 members, internal to IBO.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/replicadorIB/
> 18 members, 197 msgs in 2001, 99 msgs in Jan-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jediedit/
> 131 members, 22 msgs in 2000, 5 msgs in 2001, 6 msgs in 2002. Supposedly,
> the effort supports many SQL databases.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBDI/
> 761 members, 8 msgs in Jan-1999, 1983 msgs in 2000, 1470 msgs in 2001, 96
> msgs in 2002. Actually I think there's a bug in Yahoo's list management
SW,
> the 8 msgs should be in December-1999.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBObjects/
> 1051 members, 1380 msgs in 2000, 12680 msgs in 2001, 1874 msgs in 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBList/
> 17 members, 1 msg in Feb-2000!!!
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flashfiler/
> 6 members, 1 msg in Jun-2001!!!
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCase/
> 35 members, 17 msgs in 2000, 17 msgs in 2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBDH-Translators/
> 68 members, 106 msgs in 2000, 32 msgs in 2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/interbaseworkbench/
> 389 members, 5 msgs in 1999, 124 msgs in 2000, 267 msgs in 2001, 25 msgs
in
> 2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SqlConstructor/
> 276 members, 4 msgs in 2001, 4 msgs in Jan-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBDH-Translators-ge/
> 11 members, 61 msgs in 2000, 2 msgs in Sep-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grantmanager/
> 105 members, 28 msgs in 2000, 4 msgs in 2001, 2 msgs in Jan-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aolserver/
> 34 members, 24 msgs in Aug-2000, 5 msgs in May-2001, 1 msg in Dec-2001 and
1
> msg in Jan-2001 (those two being SPAM). It seems the official page is
> http://listserv.aol.com/archives/aolserver.html
> Sadly, I had to quick the supporter site from the WebRing because it
> disappeared and it seems that the web hosting provider itself vanished,
too.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/interbaseclub/
> 2 members, 2 msgs in Sep-2000 and that's all!
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/replicadorbr/
> 11 members, 231 msgs in Jan-2002, 88 msgs in Feb-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fbfetd/
> (FB Front End Tool Discussion)
> 29 members, 72 msgs in Jan-2002, 3 msgs in Feb-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acoelho/
> 2 members, 1 msg in Jun-2001. (I never understand some people.)
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBO-Workshop/
> 24 users, 48 msgs in 2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IBFiller/
> 4 members, no messages.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibaccess/
> 13 members, 2 msgs in May-2001, 4 msgs in Jul-2001.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibaliasmanager/
> 30 members, 83 msgs in 2001, 1 msg in Jan-2002, 6 msgs in Feb-2002.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird/
> 10 members, 7 msgs in May-2001.
> Founded: Jul 31, 1998??? Is Yahoo nuts or what???
> Otherwise, it's a big coincidence and has nothing to do with this FB.
>
> Anybody interested in the Pontiac Firebird, BTW.
> :-)
>
> As you can see, different people start ideas alike but abandon them
> afterwards. And regarding that "FB Front End Tool", maybe it would be
better
> to cooperate with an effort already running like IBAccess than to start
> another tool from scratch. We have the lesson learned from IB_Designer...
it
> started like a young horse but became dead in the race. Or maybe you could
> consider providing a patch for IBConsole so it produces non-ambiguous SQL
to
> query metadata. (As an anecdote, I knew about a developer that changed
> IBConsole to IBO in his spare time while he was learning IBO basics, for
> example.)
>
> The idea is that the more we want to tackle, the thinner we became and
> that's not good. Let's concentrate resources better. We can end up with
300
> lists with two people, all of these lists being abandoned as time passes.
>
> REPLIES TO THE IBDI LIST, PLEASE!
>
> C.
> ---------
> Claudio Valderrama C.
> Ingeniero en Informática - Consultor independiente
> http://www.cvalde.com - http://www.firebirdSQL.org
>
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