Subject | RE: [IBDI] Firebird 1 |
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Author | Paulo Gaspar |
Post date | 2001-06-05T14:48:53Z |
You suggest that this kind of data search trough the web is a dirty job
...but some has to do it.
Most of the data search needs could not be served by a search engine,
due to the variety of data orderings and data searching's. We are not
talking about text search ordered by rankings here.
It is funny that you _seem_ to say that an SQL database is not the
right tool to query data - what is the meaning of SQL then?
I want to use Firebird for Internet work... but what I am getting is
a lot of people saying that Firebird does not want to be an Internet
database. (Man, the Internet is really out of hype this days!)
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
...but some has to do it.
Most of the data search needs could not be served by a search engine,
due to the variety of data orderings and data searching's. We are not
talking about text search ordered by rankings here.
It is funny that you _seem_ to say that an SQL database is not the
right tool to query data - what is the meaning of SQL then?
I want to use Firebird for Internet work... but what I am getting is
a lot of people saying that Firebird does not want to be an Internet
database. (Man, the Internet is really out of hype this days!)
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Jencks [mailto:davidjencks@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:30 PM
> To: IBDI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [IBDI] Firebird 1
>
>
> Hi,
> On 2001.06.01 10:50:03 -0400 Ann W. Harrison wrote:
> > At 01:38 PM 6/1/2001 -0700, Peter Morris wrote:
> > >So I should hold a dataset open on the server just to allow this ?
> > >Surely that is taking up more resources than I need !
> >
> > Holding a dataset open on the server is much cheaper than
> > reopening it.
> >
> >
>
> isn't this a time-space trade off?
>
> holding open on server -- holds space on server, next execution very fast
> ---perhaps most appropriate when there are few users, connected for a long
> time
>
> closing and reopening -- frees space on server, reallocated slowly on next
> execution.
> --perhaps appropriate when there are zillions of users connected for a
> short time, most of whom don't come back to reexecute.
>
> I think maybe we are asking the wrong questions here. Most of the "I want
> limit n, m no matter how slow" arguments seem to be based on the idea of
> using a rdms for a lousy web search engine, wherein you search for
> something and almost all the numerous results are totally irrelevant, so
> you have to look through pages of goo to find out you asked the wrong
> question. Perhaps a transactional resource is not the appropriate
> repository for queries of this nature. In such a situation, it hardly
> seems like you can guarantee ever showing the most appropriate
> result. How
> do web search engines work? Perhaps periodic extractions of data and using
> something like a web search engine would be more appropriate for
> applications of this kind.
>
> I think a better although perhaps harder question is, how can we show the
> user the 7+-2 items they are both interested in and can pay
> attention to at
> the same time. Then the result set is manageable and we can just return
> all the rows.
>
> david jencks
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ann
> > www.ibphoenix.com
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