Subject RE: [IBDI] PHOENIX IN ASCENDANT
Author Doug Filteau
Complete agreement from me, Helen!

{$rant+}

Like they say: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." I
shall never believe a word spoken by any senior representative of BorPrise
again.

It looks to me like Dale Fuller and his evil minions will take BorPrise to
the chop shop and hack it into its constituent parts, selling them off to
the highest bidder. He seems to be limited to a three-month focus, trading
long-term gain for short-term gain. That doesn't bode well for the
perennially ignored InterBase, which will require funding and focus from
BorPrise (mis)management for longer than one quarter.

In my opinion, InterBase is the top RDBMS out there, especially in an
embedded role. I base my opinion on its small footprint, excellent
performance, soft landings, transaction support, ease of installation and
the lack of need for extensive administration. Other RDBMS's may beat it on
one or more of the above points but for the money, IB gets my vote.

Hopefully it will endure the ravages of the short-sighted pinheads at
BorPrise management.

Am I pissed? You bet! Where shall we start kicking butt?

Oh! One more thing! For any BorPrise management reading this (once you
figure out what this "e-mail" thing is), you guys are way, way overpaid!!!
The cesspool model of management has definitely been employed successfully
at BorPrise: the really big chunks have floated to the top!

{$rant-}

...
Doug Filteau
Technical Architect/Senior BroadVision Developer
eHealth Representative Web Page Project
Doug.Filteau@...
phone: (801) 345-2266


-----Original Message-----
From: Helen Borrie [mailto:helebor@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 12:21 AM
To: IBDI@egroups.com
Subject: [IBDI] PHOENIX IN ASCENDANT
Importance: High


Colleagues,

Here we go again - another round to save InterBase from the fate Dale
Fuller is determined to make for it. This time, though, we have much more
in hand to work with. We don't even have to BUY a database now. In
January, we had enough investor interest to start up. Needless to say,
those investors went away when Dale Fuller made his mid-February promises
and began the charade that convinced us that his intentions were good.

We now recognise that Fuller's PR over the past six months disguised his
determination to vindicate his November decision to choke IB 6 development
and put InterBase on the cold slab. We hurt his ego in January. His
elaborate campaign for personal retribution was implemented as a PR effort
that sucked volunteers (that's us!) into working around the clock to create
a viable support environment. It sucked customers into believing that what
*should* happen for InterBase was indeed *going* to happen with the
cooperation of Inprise.

Now we know that his strategy was, Dale Fuller is attempting to put
Inprise on a war footing with the community surrounding InterBase (that's
us). Already it appears he is setting up our technical colleagues inside
the Inprise walls (who have our highest respect and are personal friends to
many of us) as soldiers in this war. That is sad and destructive and,
rather than engage in it, we must sympathise with these folk and the
position they are force to take through their conditions of employment.

We are only too well aware of Inprise's record wrt InterBase. The latest
move - of putting Inprise's PR chief in charge of their token support
framework - doesn't show a glimmer of hope that Inprise is going to be
sympathetic to or supportive of a committed, technically proficient
user-developer base in the Open Source environment. Ted Shelton even seems
confused about the difference between "open sourcing" and "outsourcing".

OK, Dale Fuller hasn't released enough for anyone to do a 6.1 build this
week or even this month. He won't release the user documentation. He
won't release the technical documentation or the build framework. Most
vitally, he won't release the Test Suites. He will sell them to somebody
willing to pay $10 million for them. They are not worth $10 million to us
because we have the talent to reconstruct them ourselves.

Fuller's latest moves have made an immediate fork inevitable. A name
change looks inevitable, too. This is not a huge problem - Inprise has
helped greatly by ensuring that this 15-year-old product has practically no
brand recognition.

Work is needed. Your work. Your willingness. We have a clear view of
what needs to be done to hit the ground "in motion", if not running. We
have the strength of numbers and of skill and the "many eyes of the
bazaar". In January, we saved InterBase. Now, we must save and protect
its future.

Please start by responding to this thread - reply to this message, keeping
the subject intact and deleting the contents. Make a statement of your
position with regard to the NewCo that will stake IB henceforth.

Helen









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