Subject | RE: [IBDI] Source under NDA |
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Author | Alan McDonald |
Post date | 2000-03-13T11:23:42Z |
I was assuming that the proprietors would continue to provide sufficient,
quality input toward the code in their function as a mediator and the
"stamper or authority" that users would always be highly motivated to return
to the "source" for their production binaries. I assume also, that I would
have to be travelling very fast by myself, code-wise, to keep up with the
mainstream of the code.
Alan
quality input toward the code in their function as a mediator and the
"stamper or authority" that users would always be highly motivated to return
to the "source" for their production binaries. I assume also, that I would
have to be travelling very fast by myself, code-wise, to keep up with the
mainstream of the code.
Alan
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Helen Borrie [mailto:helebor@...]
>Sent: Monday, 13 March 2000 21:39
>To: IBDI@onelist.com
>Subject: RE: [IBDI] Source under NDA
>
>
>From: Helen Borrie <helebor@...>
>
>The information is all in the Mozilla licence which you can link to from
>www.opensource.org.
>
>The licence itself does not preclude forking. The organisation
>which forms
>the mainstream of development determines the lifestream of the
>source. The
>concern I expressed was that, if the source were released before the
>lifestream infrastructure were in place, an immediate fork - prior even to
>the full v. 6 releases - could occur. Given a long enough time
>between the
>private review and the official opening, unoffical IB6+ binaries could be
>compiled and implemented with the proprietors powerless to do anything
>about it.
>
>HB
>
>At 06:39 PM 13-03-00 +1100, you wrote:
>>From: "Alan McDonald" <alan@...>
>>
>>I think I've misunderstood the motzilla license paradigm if you
>are talking
>>about forking. I thought you had to go back to Interbase for them
>to fork -
>>where can I get some info on this?
>>Alan
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Helen Borrie [mailto:helebor@...]
>> >Sent: Monday, 13 March 2000 9:09
>> >To: IBDI@onelist.com
>> >Subject: Re: [IBDI] Source under NDA
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Helen Borrie <helebor@...>
>> >
>> >At 04:28 PM 12-03-00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>From: Ann Harrison <harrison@...>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Why can't the Source code be released under a tempory NDA to
>> >build up the
>> >> >knowledge base for when the source comes out for real?
>> >>
>> >>That's and interesting thought and one I'd like to pass back
>> >>to the community. Here are the things that need to be done
>> >>before the code is released, officially.
>> >>
>> >> References to licensing must be removed.
>> >>
>> >> Conditional code for obsolete ports, etc. must be removed.
>> >>
>> >> The build procedures must be fixed so it will build on
>> >> systems other than the ones in Scotts Valley.
>> >>
>> >>Only the last one will take any significant amount of time.
>> >>
>> >>Would there be value to a "private release" before the build
>> >>procedures were fixed?
>> >Yes: I see several benefits -
>> >1. the one Dan mentioned, of giving coders a preview of things
>> >like coding
>> >standards, etc.
>> >2. IMMENSE one of convincing people that Inprise isn't
>stalling with some
>> >sinister intent to renege on the open-sourcing
>> >3. lets people (e.g. Kylix beta developers, et al.) in on what
>are going
>> >to be the issues when coding tools for IB on the various platforms
>> >4. those interested in open source who have given up and gone away will
>> >come back before it's too late
>> >5. open source developers have a basis on which to organise themselves
>> >
>> >Caveats
>> >1. It will have to be pretty private until the infrastructure for open
>> >source development is in place, otherwise IB6 could start life
>> >with umpteen
>> >out-of-control forks
>> >2. There has to be SOME way to make it absolutely clear that it's in
>> >preview mode and is NOT open yet. As far as the general open source
>> >community is concerned, it has to be known to be still Black
>Box until the
>> >source is officially opened for development
>> >
>> >I expect there are other issues...like code control/checkout
>> >facilities and
>> >access to the tools for that.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Helen
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