Yeah, I knew the stuff about ocx's would generate some stones my direction.
I guess what I've been thinking about (and all of us for sure) is: How can
it be assured that InterBase **thrives** in its new form. I suppose it
could **exist** with no development past v6.0 for a while, but I don't think
that is what we want. So where do the resources come from to make IB thrive
both now and 5 years down the road?

Usuable drivers **have** to be developed whether they be ODBC, OLEDB, JDBC,
or whatever.

Being elite is fine for sure, but elite by definition is out of the ordinary
(or close to it) which means fewer users. WHat about NEXT? It was supposed
to be the best OS when it came out (before my computing days, so I know very
little about it) but it did not seem to live. Nor has O/S or host of other
products.

re:end users and perceptions. I see the same kind of thing happen at my
employer with Oracle end user products. To many end-users here "Oracle" is
a bad name! But the developers know better.

FWIW

Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [IBDI] contributions and more


> From: root <evpopkov@...>
>
>
> Rob,
>
> I have a stalled IB-related project on Linux. It's about GUI. Drop me a
line
> if you want to take over or join.
> Now on other interfaces.... Shouldn't we stay mean and lean? Java is
being
> dumped by Sun. Indeed, it was born dead. Active X? C'mon, it's so bloated
that
> performance and stability is merely a joke with it. ODBC seems to be the
only
> viable option. But, IIRC, IB driver is 3rd party.
> OK. But that's not all. Read to the end, then kick me, OK? :)
> Here's what I'm afraid of. Currently IB community is an elite of a kind.
We
> all know the basics, we all work hard to keep ourselves trained and
educated.
> To me, sine qua non elite is an ability and a will to learn. Do we want to
let
> everyone in? As long as our community is small we can keep all products
based
> on IB on a high quality level by sharing experience with others and
providing
> our colleagues with help and advice. Can you imagine answering hundreds of
> kiddies what it the 3rd normal form and why one might want triggers or SP
> that return result set? Doing that daily? For long months?
> IMHO, this is why Linux can't conquer home user market. People don't want
to
> study it, they just want doing things. This can be good or bad for home
user,
> but this is an absolutely inacceptable attitude of a developer.
> More on that. End users sitting 9-17 in their cubicles don't see database
> server. They work with applications. And the quality of these applications
has
> a great impact on DBMS reputation. `Oh, you know, last week they switched
our
> dept to some new database, what was its name, something in between.... oh,
yea,
> InterStore, wait, InterBase, yes. And you know what? This is a nightmare,
I
> must tell. Alll my buttons gone, I had neat boxes and those lil stripes,
what,
> they aren't there, man! As tell you, this open software is for geeks, a 4
am
> fun, not for serious business people, yes.... And, oh boy, I'm giong to
> complain about it, yes!'
> Quality of applications is the key. And we must help each other with it.
But
> that gonna be way hard if there are thousands of us.
>
> Take care
>
>
> Edward V. POPKOV
> Independent Developer
>
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