David,

> Amen. I think that if you start using external web services
> libraries in short order they will dwarf the rest of the codebase
> and anything that touches them will become completely unusable. The
> current web services standards are so complicated that the
> people/companies that write them cannot determine what valid
> behavior is and the xml involved cannot be interpreted by humans.

The talk was about XML-RPC, not SOAP/WSDL.

Example:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<methodCall>
<methodName>examples.getStateName</methodName>
<params>
<param>
<value><i4>41</i4></value>
</param>
</params>
</methodCall>

Roman